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	<description>&#34;She is very powerful, so be nice to her.&#34; Former Chancellor, Ohio Board of Regents, Eric Fingerhut</description>
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		<title>By: Blue Dog Rising</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2006/02/17/ohio-blogs-dysfunctional-dsm-criteria-remain-unmet-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24490</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Dog Rising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s OK... you got email... with clues for the hunt for a wascally weimaraner...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s OK&#8230; you got email&#8230; with clues for the hunt for a wascally weimaraner&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2006/02/17/ohio-blogs-dysfunctional-dsm-criteria-remain-unmet-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24488</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I could be wrong, you could deny it or you could ask me, respectfully, to cease and desist, which I would do, without further taunting. Well, maybe a little taunting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I could be wrong, you could deny it or you could ask me, respectfully, to cease and desist, which I would do, without further taunting. Well, maybe a little taunting.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Dog Rising</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2006/02/17/ohio-blogs-dysfunctional-dsm-criteria-remain-unmet-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24487</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Dog Rising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh oh....the hunter and the hunted... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As a blue Weimaraner, I&#039;m a great at pointing and fetching...but not very good at dodging buckshot... (you&#039;ll get mail.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;At least you&#039;re not Dick Cheney...yelp yelp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh oh&#8230;.the hunter and the hunted&#8230; </p>
<p>As a blue Weimaraner, I&#8217;m a great at pointing and fetching&#8230;but not very good at dodging buckshot&#8230; (you&#8217;ll get mail.)</p>
<p>At least you&#8217;re not Dick Cheney&#8230;yelp yelp.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can name that blogger in four searches.  And I believe I can.  But I would prefer not to do it publicly, should you prefer to remain anonymous.  So...you tell me how to proffer my guess. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can name that blogger in four searches.  And I believe I can.  But I would prefer not to do it publicly, should you prefer to remain anonymous.  So&#8230;you tell me how to proffer my guess. <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Blue Dog Rising</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Dog Rising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, no zingers yet.  However, I do plan to check out your DSM Bible and apply it to myself and friends. You and Ted Strickland would get along well, given his background in that arena.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for old James K. Polk, he got a lotta bad press for a century or so because the Civil War victors write the history (as with any war)...Polk was a slaveowner who wanted to extend the Southern states westward (Congressman Lincoln voted against the Mexican War). But, like Lincoln, Polk was a  big impact player in history. His Manifest Destiny policy gave us California, Texas, AZ, NM from Mexico and the entire Northwest from the British. More recent historians have placed Polk in the top 10 of &quot;successful&quot; presidents because he served one term and accomplished virtually every goal he set. &lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;Thus, your Polk quote in masthead is right on and should embarrass Bush every time he goes to Crawford for a six-week vacation.  My Polk antecedents are the northern branch (Indiana not Tennessee)and fought on the Union side. Granddaddy Sgt. Horace Polk&#039;s pic hangs on my office wall in Columbus. (Now there&#039;s a hunting clue.) &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I better stop here before you disqualify me as troll.  Keep on writing like you talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, no zingers yet.  However, I do plan to check out your DSM Bible and apply it to myself and friends. You and Ted Strickland would get along well, given his background in that arena.</p>
<p>As for old James K. Polk, he got a lotta bad press for a century or so because the Civil War victors write the history (as with any war)&#8230;Polk was a slaveowner who wanted to extend the Southern states westward (Congressman Lincoln voted against the Mexican War). But, like Lincoln, Polk was a  big impact player in history. His Manifest Destiny policy gave us California, Texas, AZ, NM from Mexico and the entire Northwest from the British. More recent historians have placed Polk in the top 10 of &#8220;successful&#8221; presidents because he served one term and accomplished virtually every goal he set. </p>
<p>Thus, your Polk quote in masthead is right on and should embarrass Bush every time he goes to Crawford for a six-week vacation.  My Polk antecedents are the northern branch (Indiana not Tennessee)and fought on the Union side. Granddaddy Sgt. Horace Polk&#8217;s pic hangs on my office wall in Columbus. (Now there&#8217;s a hunting clue.) </p>
<p>I better stop here before you disqualify me as troll.  Keep on writing like you talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blue Dog - Thanks again for the compliments.  You&#039;re not setting me up for some zinger of a teardown now, are you?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;About Polk - I remember learning about him when I was a kid and developed an affinity (hmm, I wonder if it was more about the teacher?).  A couple of folks have commented that Polk&#039;s &quot;success&quot; with Manifest Destiny was not the kind of success people should brag about.  I can understand that, too.  All a matter of perspective I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Dog &#8211; Thanks again for the compliments.  You&#8217;re not setting me up for some zinger of a teardown now, are you?</p>
<p>About Polk &#8211; I remember learning about him when I was a kid and developed an affinity (hmm, I wonder if it was more about the teacher?).  A couple of folks have commented that Polk&#8217;s &#8220;success&#8221; with Manifest Destiny was not the kind of success people should brag about.  I can understand that, too.  All a matter of perspective I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Dog Rising</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Dog Rising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good that you and Bill cleared up that issue of what or who is &quot;dysfunctional&quot;... &lt;br/&gt;Of course Ohio politics have been dysfunctional for years...Otherwise, we wouldn&#039;t have Bob Taft, Coingate, or even Gee Dubya and the first Veep since Aaron Burr to be accused of treason and gunning down somebody in the same term of office. With a switch of 50,000 votes in Ohio, we&#039;d have Kerry/Edwards in the White House.&lt;br/&gt;Also, I like your own sense of history with your masthead quote from President James Polk, one of the under-rated prezes.  (My grandma was a Polk and an indirect descendant...the Prez himself had no children.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good that you and Bill cleared up that issue of what or who is &#8220;dysfunctional&#8221;&#8230; <br />Of course Ohio politics have been dysfunctional for years&#8230;Otherwise, we wouldn&#8217;t have Bob Taft, Coingate, or even Gee Dubya and the first Veep since Aaron Burr to be accused of treason and gunning down somebody in the same term of office. With a switch of 50,000 votes in Ohio, we&#8217;d have Kerry/Edwards in the White House.<br />Also, I like your own sense of history with your masthead quote from President James Polk, one of the under-rated prezes.  (My grandma was a Polk and an indirect descendant&#8230;the Prez himself had no children.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Cassandra - I think they wanted to get me quiet, although I do think Kohlstrand was sincere. I just don&#039;t think the incident will necessarily see anyone change behavior or behavioral expectations within the party machine - they want to win and they want the people they want to win, to win.  At pretty much any cost - that&#039;s obvious.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We just have to keep on pushing on, however it is that we think is the right way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Cassandra &#8211; I think they wanted to get me quiet, although I do think Kohlstrand was sincere. I just don&#8217;t think the incident will necessarily see anyone change behavior or behavioral expectations within the party machine &#8211; they want to win and they want the people they want to win, to win.  At pretty much any cost &#8211; that&#8217;s obvious.</p>
<p>We just have to keep on pushing on, however it is that we think is the right way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I answer those questions, here&#039;s what Bill Beutler wrote me, unsolicited (that is, I didn&#039;t write him or anything re: what are you talking about; I just posted what I thought):&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;Just saw your post... it&#039;s all my work in that section today, and my header. A snarky header too, and about OH politics overall, not just the blogs, and not even the blogs primarily. Between Brown-Hackett and Fingerhut-ODP, it&#039;s been a tulmutuous week or so in Ohio politics, no?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wrote him back that tumultuous is an understatement.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So, in answer to your second question first, Beutler seems to be saying that it&#039;s the Ohio politics, not even necessarily the blogs, that are dysfunctional.  Now THAT I can see.  If anything, IMHO, blogs are therapeutic for everyone - it&#039;s like group therapy with several million people.  (And what did I once comment about re: what Cleveland needs several weeks back on BFD?? GROUP THERAPY!)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Re: your first question, DSM stands for the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - it&#039;s the bible for mental health professionals and let&#039;s you figure out how sick you, er, I mean, your patients are.  Mental health professionals experience what MDs do too - where you think you have everything in the book, especially when you&#039;re learning about it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here&#039;s a link to an explanation that also provides access to specific diagnostic criteria, you know, if you want to see what mental health disorders you or your friends have:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://allpsych.com/disorders/dsm.html&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;See anything familiar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I answer those questions, here&#8217;s what Bill Beutler wrote me, unsolicited (that is, I didn&#8217;t write him or anything re: what are you talking about; I just posted what I thought):</p>
<p><i>Just saw your post&#8230; it&#8217;s all my work in that section today, and my header. A snarky header too, and about OH politics overall, not just the blogs, and not even the blogs primarily. Between Brown-Hackett and Fingerhut-ODP, it&#8217;s been a tulmutuous week or so in Ohio politics, no?</i></p>
<p>I wrote him back that tumultuous is an understatement.</p>
<p>So, in answer to your second question first, Beutler seems to be saying that it&#8217;s the Ohio politics, not even necessarily the blogs, that are dysfunctional.  Now THAT I can see.  If anything, IMHO, blogs are therapeutic for everyone &#8211; it&#8217;s like group therapy with several million people.  (And what did I once comment about re: what Cleveland needs several weeks back on BFD?? GROUP THERAPY!)</p>
<p>Re: your first question, DSM stands for the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders &#8211; it&#8217;s the bible for mental health professionals and let&#8217;s you figure out how sick you, er, I mean, your patients are.  Mental health professionals experience what MDs do too &#8211; where you think you have everything in the book, especially when you&#8217;re learning about it.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to an explanation that also provides access to specific diagnostic criteria, you know, if you want to see what mental health disorders you or your friends have:</p>
<p><a href="http://allpsych.com/disorders/dsm.html" rel="nofollow">http://allpsych.com/disorders/dsm.html</a></p>
<p>See anything familiar?</p>
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		<title>By: George Nemeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Nemeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two questions.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One—what&#039;s DSM?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Two—do you think he&#039;s implying that it&#039;s bloggers that are making it dysfunctional, or that other state are as dysfunctional but we&#039;ve got more bloggers covering it, so it appears to be more dysfunctional?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two questions.</p>
<p>One—what&#8217;s DSM?</p>
<p>Two—do you think he&#8217;s implying that it&#8217;s bloggers that are making it dysfunctional, or that other state are as dysfunctional but we&#8217;ve got more bloggers covering it, so it appears to be more dysfunctional?</p>
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