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		<title>By: Shari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 14:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, the law can not make exceptions based on gender and it was Jennifer&#039;s lack of comprehension of election law that led to her being disqualified.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think &quot;Anon&quot; might be a neophyte when it comes to grammar.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The word is &quot;cannot.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe you should brush up on your writing skills instead of wasting your time babbling slanted opinions about the most qualified candidate in this race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, the law can not make exceptions based on gender and it was Jennifer&#8217;s lack of comprehension of election law that led to her being disqualified.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think &#8220;Anon&#8221; might be a neophyte when it comes to grammar.</p>
<p>The word is &#8220;cannot.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe you should brush up on your writing skills instead of wasting your time babbling slanted opinions about the most qualified candidate in this race.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon -&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can imagine how, since your opinion appears to the minority opinion in this thread, you feel that the commenters and, by extension, this blog are only for her family and good friends.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But, again, your speculation without evidence is wrong.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;First, I&#039;ve never met her and I&#039;d ever heard of Jennifer until I saw the Plain Dealer article about the case.  Second, I&#039;ve said repeatedly to her and on this blog, I don&#039;t even know if I&#039;d vote for her.  But whether or not she&#039;s a worthy candidate has ZERO to do with what&#039;s going on related to her being on the ballot.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Finally - this is not a political blog.  There are many entries about politics, but I also write about parenting, my religion and personal issues, among other tihngs.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I hope you&#039;ll read all the entries, and not just ones that for some reason you&#039;ve zeroed in on.  Then you can get a better sense of who visits and what they have to say.  It&#039;s an eclectic group and I&#039;m always thrilled when new voices enter debates.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe you need to let others who feel similarly to you come and read some of the comments here to help foment your position.  They would be welcome so long as it&#039;s done in a civil way.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Although I think that your slant has bordered on chauvinistic, you&#039;ve not resorted to any name-calling or otherwise nasty or inappropriate arguments.  I really appreciate that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for taking all the time you have for expressing your view.  I continue to disagree with it completely, but again, laud you for sticking with it, if that&#039;s really how you feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon -</p>
<p>I can imagine how, since your opinion appears to the minority opinion in this thread, you feel that the commenters and, by extension, this blog are only for her family and good friends.</p>
<p>But, again, your speculation without evidence is wrong.</p>
<p>First, I&#8217;ve never met her and I&#8217;d ever heard of Jennifer until I saw the Plain Dealer article about the case.  Second, I&#8217;ve said repeatedly to her and on this blog, I don&#8217;t even know if I&#8217;d vote for her.  But whether or not she&#8217;s a worthy candidate has ZERO to do with what&#8217;s going on related to her being on the ballot.</p>
<p>Finally &#8211; this is not a political blog.  There are many entries about politics, but I also write about parenting, my religion and personal issues, among other tihngs.  </p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll read all the entries, and not just ones that for some reason you&#8217;ve zeroed in on.  Then you can get a better sense of who visits and what they have to say.  It&#8217;s an eclectic group and I&#8217;m always thrilled when new voices enter debates.</p>
<p>Maybe you need to let others who feel similarly to you come and read some of the comments here to help foment your position.  They would be welcome so long as it&#8217;s done in a civil way.</p>
<p>Although I think that your slant has bordered on chauvinistic, you&#8217;ve not resorted to any name-calling or otherwise nasty or inappropriate arguments.  I really appreciate that.</p>
<p>Thanks for taking all the time you have for expressing your view.  I continue to disagree with it completely, but again, laud you for sticking with it, if that&#8217;s really how you feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 05:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, Her scenerio is identical to other individuals over the years who have made the exact same mistake.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Is it identical to previous cases? You cited &quot;Scott Russo Miller&quot; for example. In what way was Scott Miller a Russo?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Jennifer is actually a &quot;Martinez....in response to this comment, I would like to point out that she chose to run using a different name than which she used to register as a voter, in that respect the scenerio is similar to Scott russo Miller....The validity of whether Scott miller was a russo whereas Jennifer was a martinez is irrelevent...what you guys are losing is the factual legal principles, and you are getting mired in an imagined slight against women.  I agree her situation is unfortunate, however it was the legally correct outcome.  Society is not telling her what to do with her name, the law makes clear she had to run with the same name she was registered to vote with...I thought this was a political blog, and not just specifically a jennifer martinez blog for her, her husband, and a few political supporters....I had hoped you would blog about other judicial races, like the interesting Russo vs. Mannen race,  but oh, well.  The lamentation on Irish or Italian names doing well is misplaced...the largest ethnic group in this county is german,...and our judiciary is not overflowing with germans....The number of judges is not commensurate with percentages of ethnicity in the county, and certainly a cursory glance will reveal that names do not do well just because they are italian, or irish....the general population is rather uninformed in judicial races and votes for the most familiar name, most people can make a name good....take a look at Dimora for instance, or Sutula...However, other people benefit once an individual establishes a name in politics...That is why once kathleen sutula established herself, that john sutula ran and benefitted from her work....similarly lou stokes long service enabled his daughter to be able to run and win,....and a long history of Russo&#039;s, O&#039;malley&#039;s, gallagher, celebrezze, or whatever local name that is good....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Some of you have a misplaced view that this is gender discrimination...nothing could be further from the truth.  It was a simplace mistake on her part, I wish her supporters would look at it objectively and just admit that it was her own fault this happened, instead of pointing fingers at others and saying this isn&#039;t fair, it&#039;s discriminating against women, or the person who filed the dispute had political motives(well, of course, that&#039;s the motivation of almost all people who file disputes) or whatever excuse you may have that avoids the fact that it was her own fault and no one else&#039;s...Why can&#039;t people in our society just take responsibility for their own actions and behavior and not blame or point fingers elsewhere.  as i wrote earlier, i had hoped this was a general political blog, but it appears it is not,  It seems the only posters here are Jennifer, her husband, and good friends...but, thank you all for your generally polite input.  Everyone here seems intelligent and educated, but politically naive...You can be astute as to current affairs and issues and saavy in that arena, but political campaign dynamics and requirements is another arena altogether...goodbye and thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, Her scenerio is identical to other individuals over the years who have made the exact same mistake.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it identical to previous cases? You cited &#8220;Scott Russo Miller&#8221; for example. In what way was Scott Miller a Russo?</p>
<p>Jennifer is actually a &#8220;Martinez&#8230;.in response to this comment, I would like to point out that she chose to run using a different name than which she used to register as a voter, in that respect the scenerio is similar to Scott russo Miller&#8230;.The validity of whether Scott miller was a russo whereas Jennifer was a martinez is irrelevent&#8230;what you guys are losing is the factual legal principles, and you are getting mired in an imagined slight against women.  I agree her situation is unfortunate, however it was the legally correct outcome.  Society is not telling her what to do with her name, the law makes clear she had to run with the same name she was registered to vote with&#8230;I thought this was a political blog, and not just specifically a jennifer martinez blog for her, her husband, and a few political supporters&#8230;.I had hoped you would blog about other judicial races, like the interesting Russo vs. Mannen race,  but oh, well.  The lamentation on Irish or Italian names doing well is misplaced&#8230;the largest ethnic group in this county is german,&#8230;and our judiciary is not overflowing with germans&#8230;.The number of judges is not commensurate with percentages of ethnicity in the county, and certainly a cursory glance will reveal that names do not do well just because they are italian, or irish&#8230;.the general population is rather uninformed in judicial races and votes for the most familiar name, most people can make a name good&#8230;.take a look at Dimora for instance, or Sutula&#8230;However, other people benefit once an individual establishes a name in politics&#8230;That is why once kathleen sutula established herself, that john sutula ran and benefitted from her work&#8230;.similarly lou stokes long service enabled his daughter to be able to run and win,&#8230;.and a long history of Russo&#8217;s, O&#8217;malley&#8217;s, gallagher, celebrezze, or whatever local name that is good&#8230;.</p>
<p>Some of you have a misplaced view that this is gender discrimination&#8230;nothing could be further from the truth.  It was a simplace mistake on her part, I wish her supporters would look at it objectively and just admit that it was her own fault this happened, instead of pointing fingers at others and saying this isn&#8217;t fair, it&#8217;s discriminating against women, or the person who filed the dispute had political motives(well, of course, that&#8217;s the motivation of almost all people who file disputes) or whatever excuse you may have that avoids the fact that it was her own fault and no one else&#8217;s&#8230;Why can&#8217;t people in our society just take responsibility for their own actions and behavior and not blame or point fingers elsewhere.  as i wrote earlier, i had hoped this was a general political blog, but it appears it is not,  It seems the only posters here are Jennifer, her husband, and good friends&#8230;but, thank you all for your generally polite input.  Everyone here seems intelligent and educated, but politically naive&#8230;You can be astute as to current affairs and issues and saavy in that arena, but political campaign dynamics and requirements is another arena altogether&#8230;goodbye and thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 05:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a crowded field of 8 or 9 judges, a hispanic name certainly does provide a realistic base for a candidate.  In a field of 9, which is what I believe the field originally was in her race, the winning candidate would obvioulsy probably only need around 20-25 percent to win, a loyal base helps a long way to getting that small number...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a crowded field of 8 or 9 judges, a hispanic name certainly does provide a realistic base for a candidate.  In a field of 9, which is what I believe the field originally was in her race, the winning candidate would obvioulsy probably only need around 20-25 percent to win, a loyal base helps a long way to getting that small number&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon-&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You wrote that &quot;Common sense would dictate she chose to use her Hispanic name in a crowded race for advantage, particularly when I stated facts in a previous post outlining the voluminous documents she chose to identify herself not using her ethnic surname. Let&#039;s be honest here, candidates get in trouble when they run for office and try to use a name for electoral advantage that they do not use in everyday life&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your facts pertaining to voluminous documents not containing her ethnic surname are simply wrong.  She has used both Martinez and Martinez Atzberger since our marriage.  Your assertion that the court house and its&#039; related staff are the only community within which people are known by a given name is quite myopic.  In fact, she attended and graduated with honors from Law school after our marriage, here in this community, under the name Jennifer Martinez (as described in an earlier post on this site by one of her professors).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Whatever the outcome, this is a clear case of gender discrimination.  This type of ruling is inapplicable to the male sex in any form.  I sincerely hope that any woman with an interest in fairness and equality is offended by the use of this tactic in order to eliminate a viable candidate whose only political agenda is to help the children who appear before her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon-</p>
<p>You wrote that &#8220;Common sense would dictate she chose to use her Hispanic name in a crowded race for advantage, particularly when I stated facts in a previous post outlining the voluminous documents she chose to identify herself not using her ethnic surname. Let&#8217;s be honest here, candidates get in trouble when they run for office and try to use a name for electoral advantage that they do not use in everyday life&#8221;.</p>
<p>Your facts pertaining to voluminous documents not containing her ethnic surname are simply wrong.  She has used both Martinez and Martinez Atzberger since our marriage.  Your assertion that the court house and its&#8217; related staff are the only community within which people are known by a given name is quite myopic.  In fact, she attended and graduated with honors from Law school after our marriage, here in this community, under the name Jennifer Martinez (as described in an earlier post on this site by one of her professors).</p>
<p>Whatever the outcome, this is a clear case of gender discrimination.  This type of ruling is inapplicable to the male sex in any form.  I sincerely hope that any woman with an interest in fairness and equality is offended by the use of this tactic in order to eliminate a viable candidate whose only political agenda is to help the children who appear before her.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point Jill.  I suppose the fraud charge would be difficult to make given the poor representation of Latino names on the bench.  (I&#039;m assuming that&#039;s the case.  I can&#039;t name a Latino judge in this county)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe I&#039;ll run for judge but first I&#039;ll change my name to &quot;Hawking&quot; and wait for an O&#039;Malley or Russo to challenge my use of the name to gain advantage among the Nobel Prize winning physicist crowd.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It appears that several of the facts Anonymous depended on for his/her opinion have turned out to be false.  I wonder if it has caused Amonymous to re-evaluate at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point Jill.  I suppose the fraud charge would be difficult to make given the poor representation of Latino names on the bench.  (I&#8217;m assuming that&#8217;s the case.  I can&#8217;t name a Latino judge in this county)</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll run for judge but first I&#8217;ll change my name to &#8220;Hawking&#8221; and wait for an O&#8217;Malley or Russo to challenge my use of the name to gain advantage among the Nobel Prize winning physicist crowd.</p>
<p>It appears that several of the facts Anonymous depended on for his/her opinion have turned out to be false.  I wonder if it has caused Amonymous to re-evaluate at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave - not only that, but there&#039;s no maiden name issue with Scott Miller either.  And the court of appeals only ruled on the abandoned maiden name issue reviewed by the BOE, no attention at all to the fraud prong, as previous cases have required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave &#8211; not only that, but there&#8217;s no maiden name issue with Scott Miller either.  And the court of appeals only ruled on the abandoned maiden name issue reviewed by the BOE, no attention at all to the fraud prong, as previous cases have required.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Her scenerio is identical to other individuals over the years who have made the exact same mistake.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Is it identical to previous cases?  You cited &quot;Scott Russo Miller&quot; for example.  In what way was Scott Miller a Russo?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Jennifer is actually a &quot;Martinez&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Her scenerio is identical to other individuals over the years who have made the exact same mistake.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it identical to previous cases?  You cited &#8220;Scott Russo Miller&#8221; for example.  In what way was Scott Miller a Russo?</p>
<p>Jennifer is actually a &#8220;Martinez&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reading and commenting, Dave.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I hope Anon provides what you&#039;ve requested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading and commenting, Dave.  </p>
<p>I hope Anon provides what you&#8217;ve requested.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous said&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;There is no denying she was trying to run using her maiden name to gain a political advantage among the Hispanic community&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Is the local Hispanic community large enough to confer electoral advantage on those with Hispanic names?  Is the judiciary overflowing with Latinos as opposed to say, Irish names and Russos?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Please post the percentage of Latino judges in Cuyahoga county so that it will be obvious to the rest of us that there is &quot;no denying&quot; that choosing the name &quot;Martinez&quot; is a political advantage.</description>
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<p>&#8220;There is no denying she was trying to run using her maiden name to gain a political advantage among the Hispanic community&#8221;</p>
<p>Is the local Hispanic community large enough to confer electoral advantage on those with Hispanic names?  Is the judiciary overflowing with Latinos as opposed to say, Irish names and Russos?</p>
<p>Please post the percentage of Latino judges in Cuyahoga county so that it will be obvious to the rest of us that there is &#8220;no denying&#8221; that choosing the name &#8220;Martinez&#8221; is a political advantage.</p>
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