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		<title>By: Daniel Jack Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Jack Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone who has known all sides of the issues for as long as Strickland has (How could he not?  His whole career revolves around issues.) should have been able to draw some conclusions by now and found ways to effectively articulate for the positions he advocates.  If he were merely a bystander, it would be easier to understand his indecisiveness. It almost makes me think that Strickland concedes that it&#039;s a foregone conclusion that Ohioans support casinos. I doubt that Ohioans support casinos, since every ballot issue on the matter has gone down to defeat.  The pro-gambling lobbyists have curried favor with our legislators, and that&#039;s the arena where gambling really needs to be held in check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone who has known all sides of the issues for as long as Strickland has (How could he not?  His whole career revolves around issues.) should have been able to draw some conclusions by now and found ways to effectively articulate for the positions he advocates.  If he were merely a bystander, it would be easier to understand his indecisiveness. It almost makes me think that Strickland concedes that it&#8217;s a foregone conclusion that Ohioans support casinos. I doubt that Ohioans support casinos, since every ballot issue on the matter has gone down to defeat.  The pro-gambling lobbyists have curried favor with our legislators, and that&#8217;s the arena where gambling really needs to be held in check.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jack Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Jack Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Blackwell prevails in the primary, he may adopt a different strategy afterward.  I know Matt Naugle, myself.  He is a refreshingly down-to-earth fellow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Blackwell prevails in the primary, he may adopt a different strategy afterward.  I know Matt Naugle, myself.  He is a refreshingly down-to-earth fellow.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Blackwell and MTB - surely you jest Mr. Williamson, or you&#039;ve not read your news lately!  Seems that Mr. Blackwell isn&#039;t talking to no one: no newspaper-sponsored debates, no appearance with Jim Petro at the City Club, nothing.  Now, that said, his official blogger, Matt Naugle, a very engaging and passionate young man, attended the MTB debate between Strickland and Flannery and was very complimentary.  It&#039;s hoped that he&#039;ll try to and maybe succeed in persuading Mr. Blackwell that MTB is a fair and appropriate forum.  And I think Mr. Petro found it a far better experience that at least some of his advisors might have expected.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, given the current news coming out of Blackwell&#039;s campaign re: who he will and won&#039;t see, I&#039;m not optimistic.  If you have any influence, please -feel free to give a whirl!  In all honesty, I absolutely believe that MTB has done nothing but good for every candidate that&#039;s attended. IMHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Blackwell and MTB &#8211; surely you jest Mr. Williamson, or you&#8217;ve not read your news lately!  Seems that Mr. Blackwell isn&#8217;t talking to no one: no newspaper-sponsored debates, no appearance with Jim Petro at the City Club, nothing.  Now, that said, his official blogger, Matt Naugle, a very engaging and passionate young man, attended the MTB debate between Strickland and Flannery and was very complimentary.  It&#8217;s hoped that he&#8217;ll try to and maybe succeed in persuading Mr. Blackwell that MTB is a fair and appropriate forum.  And I think Mr. Petro found it a far better experience that at least some of his advisors might have expected.</p>
<p>However, given the current news coming out of Blackwell&#8217;s campaign re: who he will and won&#8217;t see, I&#8217;m not optimistic.  If you have any influence, please -feel free to give a whirl!  In all honesty, I absolutely believe that MTB has done nothing but good for every candidate that&#8217;s attended. IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough on both counts.  My only retort this go-round would be that for sure there are candidates who win gobs of $$ by being hardlined in certain directions too, since some PACs won&#039;t give unless you&#039;re clearly in their corner, not just a possible vote for their cause, no?  I&#039;m thinking particularly of more extreme right-wing causes, though I&#039;m certain there are some on the left that dole out their $$ in the same way: to sure bets, not just to influence wafflers.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And, finally, you know, and I bet you do, that some of us - and I include myself in this batch, really do, actually feel the way Strickland describes how he says he feels about the casinos.  That is, if the residents of Ohio want them, and I don&#039;t, I may fight to not have them, but I don&#039;t know that I&#039;m moving out tomorrow because of it.  I would never say that I won&#039;t live in CT because they have casinos (I&#039;ve even been to one and one of my best friends is married to a Mohegan, although to look at him you&#039;d think he just stepped off the Mayflower -that&#039;s another story).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So - you know, some folks, and probably all folks on at least a couple of issues, sit on the fence because they don&#039;t want to or really can&#039;t make a commitment or they just see both sides.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s not to say that our elected officials should or shouldn&#039;t be that way, or can or cannot afford to be that way.  But as a human, it&#039;s not that unnatural.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough on both counts.  My only retort this go-round would be that for sure there are candidates who win gobs of $$ by being hardlined in certain directions too, since some PACs won&#8217;t give unless you&#8217;re clearly in their corner, not just a possible vote for their cause, no?  I&#8217;m thinking particularly of more extreme right-wing causes, though I&#8217;m certain there are some on the left that dole out their $$ in the same way: to sure bets, not just to influence wafflers.</p>
<p>And, finally, you know, and I bet you do, that some of us &#8211; and I include myself in this batch, really do, actually feel the way Strickland describes how he says he feels about the casinos.  That is, if the residents of Ohio want them, and I don&#8217;t, I may fight to not have them, but I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;m moving out tomorrow because of it.  I would never say that I won&#8217;t live in CT because they have casinos (I&#8217;ve even been to one and one of my best friends is married to a Mohegan, although to look at him you&#8217;d think he just stepped off the Mayflower -that&#8217;s another story).</p>
<p>So &#8211; you know, some folks, and probably all folks on at least a couple of issues, sit on the fence because they don&#8217;t want to or really can&#8217;t make a commitment or they just see both sides.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that our elected officials should or shouldn&#8217;t be that way, or can or cannot afford to be that way.  But as a human, it&#8217;s not that unnatural.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jack Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Jack Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Blackwell&#039;s 65% benchmark, is Blackwell scheduled to &quot;Meet the Bloggers?&quot;  That might be a good line of questioning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Blackwell&#8217;s 65% benchmark, is Blackwell scheduled to &#8220;Meet the Bloggers?&#8221;  That might be a good line of questioning.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jack Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Jack Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a candidate makes a clear and definitive statement on an issue, then a candidate is clearly sending a message that they cannot be bought at an auction to the highest bidder.  When a candidate makes a public statement on an issue that is totally ambiguous, that&#039;s sending a message of &quot;Go ahead and influence me!  Make your checks out to . . .&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As a candidate, I received no campaign contributions from PAC&#039;s, though some PAC&#039;s did choose to endorse me based upon my clearly definitive statements about my platform.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Those candidates willing to &quot;waffle&quot; (especially running in a swing district, and the state of Ohio is one giant swing district) can really absorb a lot of campaign contributions from competing special interest PAC&#039;s.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My wisecrack about our members of Congress reflect the increasing number of media revelations concerning corruption in Washington DC.  I admit that my wisecrack is not based upon any personal knowledge of any scandalous relationship between Strickland and any other entity.  I apologize for my levity concerning such a grave matter, especially in the absence of substantiating evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a candidate makes a clear and definitive statement on an issue, then a candidate is clearly sending a message that they cannot be bought at an auction to the highest bidder.  When a candidate makes a public statement on an issue that is totally ambiguous, that&#8217;s sending a message of &#8220;Go ahead and influence me!  Make your checks out to . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>As a candidate, I received no campaign contributions from PAC&#8217;s, though some PAC&#8217;s did choose to endorse me based upon my clearly definitive statements about my platform.</p>
<p>Those candidates willing to &#8220;waffle&#8221; (especially running in a swing district, and the state of Ohio is one giant swing district) can really absorb a lot of campaign contributions from competing special interest PAC&#8217;s.</p>
<p>My wisecrack about our members of Congress reflect the increasing number of media revelations concerning corruption in Washington DC.  I admit that my wisecrack is not based upon any personal knowledge of any scandalous relationship between Strickland and any other entity.  I apologize for my levity concerning such a grave matter, especially in the absence of substantiating evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I appreciate the time you&#039;ve taken, again.  I&#039;m tired out from writing up the Petro MTB but let me say first that I&#039;m sure after reading your comment that I&#039;m not a Republican since, for one, I am sure that the prevailing opinion you describe is the one of the GOP state legislators, correct?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, just so you know that I like debate, as sport, here goes:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When you write, &quot;As an example, Blackwell&#039;s campaign wants to set a benchmark wherein 65% of education expenditures are spent directly on classroom instruction. This builds on a widely-held view in conservative circles that far too much of the education money is spent on administrative costs, or on peripheral programs (beyond the classroom) that exist for purposes of social engineering rather than for purposes of classroom instruction, and that increases in school revenues are more likely to beef up the administration and the peripheral programs than they are to beef up the classroom instruction,&quot; well - I&#039;ve researched this approach to school budgeting and find it to be fallatious, hard-hearted and short-sighted at best, given that that 65% doesn&#039;t even allow for librarians (did you know that?) among other groups.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, you say, regarding Strickland and casinos, &quot;I certainly get the sense that he will let others do the dirty work to expand gambling here. He&#039;s sending a signal that he can be &quot;bought.&quot; He is, after all, a Congressman, isn&#039;t he?&quot; correct if I&#039;m wrong, but you&#039;ve run a couple of times to be state legislator.  Does that mean that you can be bought as well?  Or...what exactly do you mean, as applied to your aspirations, or former aspirations? (Since I definitely am not sure what you do now)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks again for reading and commenting.  I look forward to your responses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I appreciate the time you&#8217;ve taken, again.  I&#8217;m tired out from writing up the Petro MTB but let me say first that I&#8217;m sure after reading your comment that I&#8217;m not a Republican since, for one, I am sure that the prevailing opinion you describe is the one of the GOP state legislators, correct?</p>
<p>Also, just so you know that I like debate, as sport, here goes:</p>
<p>When you write, &#8220;As an example, Blackwell&#8217;s campaign wants to set a benchmark wherein 65% of education expenditures are spent directly on classroom instruction. This builds on a widely-held view in conservative circles that far too much of the education money is spent on administrative costs, or on peripheral programs (beyond the classroom) that exist for purposes of social engineering rather than for purposes of classroom instruction, and that increases in school revenues are more likely to beef up the administration and the peripheral programs than they are to beef up the classroom instruction,&#8221; well &#8211; I&#8217;ve researched this approach to school budgeting and find it to be fallatious, hard-hearted and short-sighted at best, given that that 65% doesn&#8217;t even allow for librarians (did you know that?) among other groups.</p>
<p>Also, you say, regarding Strickland and casinos, &#8220;I certainly get the sense that he will let others do the dirty work to expand gambling here. He&#8217;s sending a signal that he can be &#8220;bought.&#8221; He is, after all, a Congressman, isn&#8217;t he?&#8221; correct if I&#8217;m wrong, but you&#8217;ve run a couple of times to be state legislator.  Does that mean that you can be bought as well?  Or&#8230;what exactly do you mean, as applied to your aspirations, or former aspirations? (Since I definitely am not sure what you do now)</p>
<p>Thanks again for reading and commenting.  I look forward to your responses.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jack Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Jack Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The prevailing opinion is that the Ohio Supreme Court had no business making the ruling on DeRolph. &quot;Legislating from the bench&quot; is the catch-phrase that sums up the prevailing view on that topic (in violation of the separation of powers among the three branches of government).  The prevailing opinion is that property taxes, while perhaps being too expensive, are legitimate.  The Northwest Ordinance that formed the first code of law for the Northwest Territories (from which the Ohio Territory was carved before statehood) clearly established the precedent that land was to be the support for the educational system.  When surveyors laid out every township (measuring 36 square miles), section 16 (measuring one square mile) was reserved for the public school.  If the entire square mile was not needed for the schools, then the township could sell land from that section, the proceeds of which would support the schools.  This is the precursor of property taxes as the basis of education funding.  Conservatives prefer that taxes be kept at the local level where government can be kept smaller and more closely watched rather than forwarding taxes to the state or national government, swelling bureaucracies that are farther removed from the vigilance of the voters.  The prevailing opinion is that the educational system is not inherently broken merely because one district&#039;s tax base differs from another.  Success or failure of the schools to reach educational objectives are not determined predominantly by $$$, but are more likely determined by the expectations, support, and involvement of parents.  While discrepancies can and do arise from one school district to another, conservatives decry socialistic (redistribution of wealth) remedies in order to achieve conformity (which would amount to universal mediocrity, in their eyes).  The conservative opinion is that the schools do not necessarily provide a better education by throwing more money in their direction.  As an example, Blackwell&#039;s campaign wants to set a benchmark wherein 65% of education expenditures are spent directly on classroom instruction.  This builds on a widely-held view in conservative circles that far too much of the education money is spent on administrative costs, or on peripheral programs (beyond the classroom) that exist for purposes of social engineering rather than for purposes of classroom instruction, and that increases in school revenues are more likely to beef up the administration and the peripheral programs than they are to beef up the classroom instruction.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The legislature&#039;s response to the allegations of unsafe and outmoded school buildings in poor school districts was to launch a massive school construction project across Ohio.  The income tax rollbacks disappeared, the rainy day fund disappeared, the tobacco lawsuit settlement money was diverted, and a large portion of our state budget is now allocated to the repayment of bonds.  For conservatives, this was a massive money grab by the state, pure and simple, under the guise of &quot;education.&quot;  Now that the legislature has done all this, plus established a dollar amount for what it believes to be adequate to educate a student, yes, the prevailing opinion on the General Assembly is &quot;do nothing, that the situation is improving and charters and vouchers are the answer.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s that last part that I have the hardest time with. Their rationale is that the public schools will perform better with competition.  They got it backwards: public schools ARE the competition.  Before there were public schools, there was only private education.  In Europe, before the foundations of our own nation, if children weren&#039;t raised to do the same work their parents did, they had to have some means to do otherwise.  They could apprentice their child to someone else, seek a commission with the military, study at a convent or monastery to become part of the clergy, or go to a boarding school or university.  All of those options had a price tag affixed.  Seeking to break from aristocratic institutions, our new nation encouraged the formation of public schools to compete with the private ones and lead to a more egalitarian status among our citizens.  To look to vouchers and charter schools as a way to improve public schools, to me, is a way to dodge responsibility.  We should be getting our hands dirty fixing the public schools instead of circumventing them, but I guess circumventing them is the easy, convenient &quot;solution.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The competition rationale further lacks credibility when drawing a parallel to the business world.  Let&#039;s liken the state government to a fast-food restaurant corporation, and liken the school districts as franchised operations of the corporation.  If McDonalds thinks a franchisee is not performing well, do they say &quot;Let&#039;s improve our franchisee&#039;s performance by creating more competition?&quot;  Would the McDonalds corporation hand out coupons (vouchers) to customers for purchases at Wendys in order to increase competition?  Would McDonalds send funds to help operate Burger Kings (charter schools) to increase competition?  No way!  They would probably hold seminars for the franchisees, provide them with more tools, more training, based on needs revealed by bookkeeping, auditing and mystery shopping so that they could boost the performance of their franchisees.  &quot;Grassroots&quot; GOP voters may recognize that vouchers and charter schools merely amount to corporate welfare for entrepreneurs like David Brennan of White Hat Management (quid pro quo).  For the fiscally conservative, how do the voucher and charter school programs save the taxpayers money compared to just providing money to public schools only?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, there are those in the GOP who have variant opinions on the wisdom of property taxes.  There are GOP candidates out there who believe that the current property tax regime may have an adverse affect on business location decisions and an adverse affect on outward migration of our most well-to-do retirees, so re-examining our current state and local taxation structures ought to be an option laid out on the table.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for Strickland and gambling, he has left the door open for pro-gambling PAC&#039;s to donate to his campaign (I haven&#039;t looked at any campaign finance reports yet to find out if this has indeed happened), and I certainly get the sense that he will let others do the dirty work to expand gambling here.  He&#039;s sending a signal that he can be &quot;bought.&quot;  He is, after all, a Congressman, isn&#039;t he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prevailing opinion is that the Ohio Supreme Court had no business making the ruling on DeRolph. &#8220;Legislating from the bench&#8221; is the catch-phrase that sums up the prevailing view on that topic (in violation of the separation of powers among the three branches of government).  The prevailing opinion is that property taxes, while perhaps being too expensive, are legitimate.  The Northwest Ordinance that formed the first code of law for the Northwest Territories (from which the Ohio Territory was carved before statehood) clearly established the precedent that land was to be the support for the educational system.  When surveyors laid out every township (measuring 36 square miles), section 16 (measuring one square mile) was reserved for the public school.  If the entire square mile was not needed for the schools, then the township could sell land from that section, the proceeds of which would support the schools.  This is the precursor of property taxes as the basis of education funding.  Conservatives prefer that taxes be kept at the local level where government can be kept smaller and more closely watched rather than forwarding taxes to the state or national government, swelling bureaucracies that are farther removed from the vigilance of the voters.  The prevailing opinion is that the educational system is not inherently broken merely because one district&#8217;s tax base differs from another.  Success or failure of the schools to reach educational objectives are not determined predominantly by $$$, but are more likely determined by the expectations, support, and involvement of parents.  While discrepancies can and do arise from one school district to another, conservatives decry socialistic (redistribution of wealth) remedies in order to achieve conformity (which would amount to universal mediocrity, in their eyes).  The conservative opinion is that the schools do not necessarily provide a better education by throwing more money in their direction.  As an example, Blackwell&#8217;s campaign wants to set a benchmark wherein 65% of education expenditures are spent directly on classroom instruction.  This builds on a widely-held view in conservative circles that far too much of the education money is spent on administrative costs, or on peripheral programs (beyond the classroom) that exist for purposes of social engineering rather than for purposes of classroom instruction, and that increases in school revenues are more likely to beef up the administration and the peripheral programs than they are to beef up the classroom instruction.</p>
<p>The legislature&#8217;s response to the allegations of unsafe and outmoded school buildings in poor school districts was to launch a massive school construction project across Ohio.  The income tax rollbacks disappeared, the rainy day fund disappeared, the tobacco lawsuit settlement money was diverted, and a large portion of our state budget is now allocated to the repayment of bonds.  For conservatives, this was a massive money grab by the state, pure and simple, under the guise of &#8220;education.&#8221;  Now that the legislature has done all this, plus established a dollar amount for what it believes to be adequate to educate a student, yes, the prevailing opinion on the General Assembly is &#8220;do nothing, that the situation is improving and charters and vouchers are the answer.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s that last part that I have the hardest time with. Their rationale is that the public schools will perform better with competition.  They got it backwards: public schools ARE the competition.  Before there were public schools, there was only private education.  In Europe, before the foundations of our own nation, if children weren&#8217;t raised to do the same work their parents did, they had to have some means to do otherwise.  They could apprentice their child to someone else, seek a commission with the military, study at a convent or monastery to become part of the clergy, or go to a boarding school or university.  All of those options had a price tag affixed.  Seeking to break from aristocratic institutions, our new nation encouraged the formation of public schools to compete with the private ones and lead to a more egalitarian status among our citizens.  To look to vouchers and charter schools as a way to improve public schools, to me, is a way to dodge responsibility.  We should be getting our hands dirty fixing the public schools instead of circumventing them, but I guess circumventing them is the easy, convenient &#8220;solution.&#8221;</p>
<p>The competition rationale further lacks credibility when drawing a parallel to the business world.  Let&#8217;s liken the state government to a fast-food restaurant corporation, and liken the school districts as franchised operations of the corporation.  If McDonalds thinks a franchisee is not performing well, do they say &#8220;Let&#8217;s improve our franchisee&#8217;s performance by creating more competition?&#8221;  Would the McDonalds corporation hand out coupons (vouchers) to customers for purchases at Wendys in order to increase competition?  Would McDonalds send funds to help operate Burger Kings (charter schools) to increase competition?  No way!  They would probably hold seminars for the franchisees, provide them with more tools, more training, based on needs revealed by bookkeeping, auditing and mystery shopping so that they could boost the performance of their franchisees.  &#8220;Grassroots&#8221; GOP voters may recognize that vouchers and charter schools merely amount to corporate welfare for entrepreneurs like David Brennan of White Hat Management (quid pro quo).  For the fiscally conservative, how do the voucher and charter school programs save the taxpayers money compared to just providing money to public schools only?</p>
<p>Also, there are those in the GOP who have variant opinions on the wisdom of property taxes.  There are GOP candidates out there who believe that the current property tax regime may have an adverse affect on business location decisions and an adverse affect on outward migration of our most well-to-do retirees, so re-examining our current state and local taxation structures ought to be an option laid out on the table.</p>
<p>As for Strickland and gambling, he has left the door open for pro-gambling PAC&#8217;s to donate to his campaign (I haven&#8217;t looked at any campaign finance reports yet to find out if this has indeed happened), and I certainly get the sense that he will let others do the dirty work to expand gambling here.  He&#8217;s sending a signal that he can be &#8220;bought.&#8221;  He is, after all, a Congressman, isn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Williamson - Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just so I&#039;m clear, how would you phrase the prevailing GOP legislative position on school funding, the position from which you say some legislators vary?  I&#039;m assuming that it is to do nothing, that the situation is improving and charters and vouchers are the answer.  But, I admit, this is only an assumption.  I&#039;m not very familiar with individual legislator positions, with perhaps the exception of Marc Dann and Chris Redfern, and that&#039;s only because of my recent interaction with and self-education about them.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By excluding Strickland as someone who is &quot;out&quot; against casinos by saying that he won&#039;t advocate for them, are you suggesting that he secretly wants them or is willing to let others do the dirty work to get them here?  I don&#039;t read what he&#039;s said thus far about casinos that way, but I know others have that read on him.  Other than being a Democrat, is there any evidence that he does in fact support casinos, secretly or not so secretly?  I&#039;ve not seen that but there&#039;s a lot I don&#039;t know.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Agreed - it&#039;s very unlikely, and it seems to be happening more and more, that we are unlikely to find all the ingredients we want in one package, without the ones we don&#039;t want.  Tough times and choices indeed.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Williamson &#8211; Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.  </p>
<p>Just so I&#8217;m clear, how would you phrase the prevailing GOP legislative position on school funding, the position from which you say some legislators vary?  I&#8217;m assuming that it is to do nothing, that the situation is improving and charters and vouchers are the answer.  But, I admit, this is only an assumption.  I&#8217;m not very familiar with individual legislator positions, with perhaps the exception of Marc Dann and Chris Redfern, and that&#8217;s only because of my recent interaction with and self-education about them.</p>
<p>By excluding Strickland as someone who is &#8220;out&#8221; against casinos by saying that he won&#8217;t advocate for them, are you suggesting that he secretly wants them or is willing to let others do the dirty work to get them here?  I don&#8217;t read what he&#8217;s said thus far about casinos that way, but I know others have that read on him.  Other than being a Democrat, is there any evidence that he does in fact support casinos, secretly or not so secretly?  I&#8217;ve not seen that but there&#8217;s a lot I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Agreed &#8211; it&#8217;s very unlikely, and it seems to be happening more and more, that we are unlikely to find all the ingredients we want in one package, without the ones we don&#8217;t want.  Tough times and choices indeed.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jack Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Jack Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, the Republican legislature is not monolithic in its defiance of the DeRolph rulings.  I had the opportunity to meet the GOP legislators and many GOP candidates during both 2002 and 2004 when I, myself, was a GOP candidate for the state legislature.  There is a geographical dimension and there is a campaign funding dimension to the prevailing GOP opinion on school funding.  The exurbs of southwest Ohio have public schools that are among the &quot;haves&quot; rather than the &quot;have-nots.&quot; The state legislators from this region rake in the most campaign contributions for the GOP--not just their own campaigns, but for the Ohio House Republican Campaign Committee, the Ohio GOP, and other GOP campaign treasuries as well.  This fundraising ability is very influential in determining the GOP leadership in the Ohio House.  This dynamic led to the emergence of Speaker of the House Husted from suburban Dayton.  There are those in the GOP who have very different views of public education.  The farther away a GOP candidate is from Southwest Ohio, and the less money the GOP candidate has, the more likely there is to be a variance from the prevailing opinion.  The variant views do not prevail because they more likely spring from &quot;grassroots&quot; candidacies with less fundraising clout, so they do not have as high a success rate in the elections. (In the primary elections, the more well-funded candidate will be the more familiar name among the voters, regardless of the merits of that candidate&#039;s platform vis-a-vis the merits of the platform of the lesser funded opponents.)  Nevertheless, the prevailing opinion is not the opinion of all.  A smart candidate who wants legislative action on an issue will not paint the legislature with a broad brush, but, instead, seek out the divisions between the factions, and cobble together enough votes among those factions (using both sides of the aisle) to gain traction.  Pigeon-holing all GOP legislators as belonging to the same mindset will only doom moderate Dems, because they stand to lose every vote that trends along party lines.  Working to erase party line votes by reaching across the aisle and finding a few core principles to agree upon with a faction of the opposing party is the best way for moderate voices to be heard.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By the way, while you praise Strickland for a proper attitude toward consensus-building, Strickland also needs to convey a hint of where the consensus will be found.  To not do so could lead one to believe that Strickland is clueless and doesn&#039;t know where to lead us to.  Flannery may have talked about &quot;leadership&quot; in that context to contrast with a perception that Strickland is &quot;adrift&quot; and can thus be tossed like the waves of the sea and driven with the wind.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for the issue of gambling, I am very much against gambling.  I am alarmed that the expansion of gambling is greatly favored by our legislators from both sides of the aisle.  Because our past two governors threatened a veto on casinos, the legislature didn&#039;t spring into action.  The only gubernatorial candidates that have weighed in against casinos have been the Republican candidates for governor. (Petro, Blackwell, and before she dropped out, Montgomery, have all made powerful statements against gambling.)  In other words, you are not likely to find all the ingredients you are looking for packaged into just one gubernatorial candidacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, the Republican legislature is not monolithic in its defiance of the DeRolph rulings.  I had the opportunity to meet the GOP legislators and many GOP candidates during both 2002 and 2004 when I, myself, was a GOP candidate for the state legislature.  There is a geographical dimension and there is a campaign funding dimension to the prevailing GOP opinion on school funding.  The exurbs of southwest Ohio have public schools that are among the &#8220;haves&#8221; rather than the &#8220;have-nots.&#8221; The state legislators from this region rake in the most campaign contributions for the GOP&#8211;not just their own campaigns, but for the Ohio House Republican Campaign Committee, the Ohio GOP, and other GOP campaign treasuries as well.  This fundraising ability is very influential in determining the GOP leadership in the Ohio House.  This dynamic led to the emergence of Speaker of the House Husted from suburban Dayton.  There are those in the GOP who have very different views of public education.  The farther away a GOP candidate is from Southwest Ohio, and the less money the GOP candidate has, the more likely there is to be a variance from the prevailing opinion.  The variant views do not prevail because they more likely spring from &#8220;grassroots&#8221; candidacies with less fundraising clout, so they do not have as high a success rate in the elections. (In the primary elections, the more well-funded candidate will be the more familiar name among the voters, regardless of the merits of that candidate&#8217;s platform vis-a-vis the merits of the platform of the lesser funded opponents.)  Nevertheless, the prevailing opinion is not the opinion of all.  A smart candidate who wants legislative action on an issue will not paint the legislature with a broad brush, but, instead, seek out the divisions between the factions, and cobble together enough votes among those factions (using both sides of the aisle) to gain traction.  Pigeon-holing all GOP legislators as belonging to the same mindset will only doom moderate Dems, because they stand to lose every vote that trends along party lines.  Working to erase party line votes by reaching across the aisle and finding a few core principles to agree upon with a faction of the opposing party is the best way for moderate voices to be heard.</p>
<p>By the way, while you praise Strickland for a proper attitude toward consensus-building, Strickland also needs to convey a hint of where the consensus will be found.  To not do so could lead one to believe that Strickland is clueless and doesn&#8217;t know where to lead us to.  Flannery may have talked about &#8220;leadership&#8221; in that context to contrast with a perception that Strickland is &#8220;adrift&#8221; and can thus be tossed like the waves of the sea and driven with the wind.</p>
<p>As for the issue of gambling, I am very much against gambling.  I am alarmed that the expansion of gambling is greatly favored by our legislators from both sides of the aisle.  Because our past two governors threatened a veto on casinos, the legislature didn&#8217;t spring into action.  The only gubernatorial candidates that have weighed in against casinos have been the Republican candidates for governor. (Petro, Blackwell, and before she dropped out, Montgomery, have all made powerful statements against gambling.)  In other words, you are not likely to find all the ingredients you are looking for packaged into just one gubernatorial candidacy.</p>
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