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	<title>Comments on: How is it that in Ohio, candidate believes that gay would &#8220;eclipse every other important issue&#8221;?</title>
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	<description>&#34;She is very powerful, so be nice to her.&#34; Former Chancellor, Ohio Board of Regents, Eric Fingerhut</description>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/18/how-is-it-that-in-ohio-candidate-believes-that-gay-would-eclipse-every-other-important-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-30401</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Chris Redfern is on the record as saying he supports public financing - I was there when he spoke about it last year.  Something to think about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Chris Redfern is on the record as saying he supports public financing &#8211; I was there when he spoke about it last year.  Something to think about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Renee</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/18/how-is-it-that-in-ohio-candidate-believes-that-gay-would-eclipse-every-other-important-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-30397</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be worth considering as well, it certainly couldn&#039;t be any worse than what we are experiencing right now as far as seeing great candidates not get financial help because they don&#039;t or won&#039;t kiss the right behinds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be worth considering as well, it certainly couldn&#8217;t be any worse than what we are experiencing right now as far as seeing great candidates not get financial help because they don&#8217;t or won&#8217;t kiss the right behinds.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/18/how-is-it-that-in-ohio-candidate-believes-that-gay-would-eclipse-every-other-important-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-30389</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d sure be willing to give it a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d sure be willing to give it a try.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Renee</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/18/how-is-it-that-in-ohio-candidate-believes-that-gay-would-eclipse-every-other-important-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-30376</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think public financing of campaigns would eliminate some of the back room power deals...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think public financing of campaigns would eliminate some of the back room power deals&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/18/how-is-it-that-in-ohio-candidate-believes-that-gay-would-eclipse-every-other-important-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-30338</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.  Well, I really appreciate that insight, Lisa Renee. So, as I suggested elsewhere, do you think that public financing of campaigns would strip away some of the barriers?  Or would the votes dry up too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.  Well, I really appreciate that insight, Lisa Renee. So, as I suggested elsewhere, do you think that public financing of campaigns would strip away some of the barriers?  Or would the votes dry up too?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think his belief that this would hurt his fundraising is real.  Candidates like Latta who don&#039;t have the additional personal issue that has now been raised will raise more money.  Sad as it may be, money matters when it comes to these races.  Candidates are told they have to raise a certain dollar amount to be considered &quot;credible&quot; and they don&#039;t normally get the help from either state party until they reach that goal.  

He was going to have an uphill battle raising the amount of money needed against some of these bigger names so whoever anonymous was succeeded in planting a seed that grew into an enormous killer oak tree.  

Like you, I really don&#039;t care who anonymous ends up being, whatever their motivation it doesn&#039;t change the end result of what happened.  It&#039;d be nice to think we lived in a world where qualifications mattered most, but we don&#039;t.  Until more people start demanding quality, who you know and your ability to raise money will be considered more of a priority from a political party standpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think his belief that this would hurt his fundraising is real.  Candidates like Latta who don&#8217;t have the additional personal issue that has now been raised will raise more money.  Sad as it may be, money matters when it comes to these races.  Candidates are told they have to raise a certain dollar amount to be considered &#8220;credible&#8221; and they don&#8217;t normally get the help from either state party until they reach that goal.  </p>
<p>He was going to have an uphill battle raising the amount of money needed against some of these bigger names so whoever anonymous was succeeded in planting a seed that grew into an enormous killer oak tree.  </p>
<p>Like you, I really don&#8217;t care who anonymous ends up being, whatever their motivation it doesn&#8217;t change the end result of what happened.  It&#8217;d be nice to think we lived in a world where qualifications mattered most, but we don&#8217;t.  Until more people start demanding quality, who you know and your ability to raise money will be considered more of a priority from a political party standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with you, Bill.  And situations like this one really make me think: what is going on? Was it a personal decision and he&#039;s using the can&#039;t fundraise as a guise?  Or, are we underestimating some other threats that may or may not be out there re: don&#039;t rock the boat? This reminds me of how I feel about so-called moderate Republicans who just don&#039;t speak up.  What is with that?  They could be the leaders, the ones that keep things reasonable so that more needs get met, not fewer and not more extreme ones.

I&#039;m a huge believer in the space between.  People should have more faith in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with you, Bill.  And situations like this one really make me think: what is going on? Was it a personal decision and he&#8217;s using the can&#8217;t fundraise as a guise?  Or, are we underestimating some other threats that may or may not be out there re: don&#8217;t rock the boat? This reminds me of how I feel about so-called moderate Republicans who just don&#8217;t speak up.  What is with that?  They could be the leaders, the ones that keep things reasonable so that more needs get met, not fewer and not more extreme ones.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a huge believer in the space between.  People should have more faith in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm. Well - Let&#039;s get this straight though.  Tim Brown didn&#039;t withdraw based on any actual incidents of being shunned or rejected because of being gay.  He withdrew because he perceives that that will happen.  Whether it would or wouldn&#039;t I don&#039;t know.  But unless I&#039;ve missed it, I haven&#039;t seen anyone to the right of center say, Oh - he&#039;s crazy! Of course we would give him money! He&#039;s a great candidate (or even an okay enough candidate that they&#039;d give him money).

I probably haven&#039;t been following politics long enough so maybe that&#039;s why I can&#039;t think of anyone in particular, but sure - I would imagine that there might be some candidates whom the official party structures would put lower down on the totem pole, depending on how many core issues they  were copacetic on.  For example, Judge O&#039;Neill I believe is pro-life.  I believe - but I&#039;m not 100% sure - I seem to recall that from his prior run but I should be corrected if I&#039;m wrong.

Now - once he got the nomination, the party was behind him, no one on the Dems. side smeared him etc and since he wasn&#039;t taking money, that was never an issue.  Might it be this year?

I just don&#039;t see that, Scott.  He is such an able person in every other way.

So - I&#039;d prefer you offer up some examples of a candidate being forced to withdraw as a Democratic candidate because he or she could not raise money due to his or her beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm. Well &#8211; Let&#8217;s get this straight though.  Tim Brown didn&#8217;t withdraw based on any actual incidents of being shunned or rejected because of being gay.  He withdrew because he perceives that that will happen.  Whether it would or wouldn&#8217;t I don&#8217;t know.  But unless I&#8217;ve missed it, I haven&#8217;t seen anyone to the right of center say, Oh &#8211; he&#8217;s crazy! Of course we would give him money! He&#8217;s a great candidate (or even an okay enough candidate that they&#8217;d give him money).</p>
<p>I probably haven&#8217;t been following politics long enough so maybe that&#8217;s why I can&#8217;t think of anyone in particular, but sure &#8211; I would imagine that there might be some candidates whom the official party structures would put lower down on the totem pole, depending on how many core issues they  were copacetic on.  For example, Judge O&#8217;Neill I believe is pro-life.  I believe &#8211; but I&#8217;m not 100% sure &#8211; I seem to recall that from his prior run but I should be corrected if I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p>Now &#8211; once he got the nomination, the party was behind him, no one on the Dems. side smeared him etc and since he wasn&#8217;t taking money, that was never an issue.  Might it be this year?</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see that, Scott.  He is such an able person in every other way.</p>
<p>So &#8211; I&#8217;d prefer you offer up some examples of a candidate being forced to withdraw as a Democratic candidate because he or she could not raise money due to his or her beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: bill sloat</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill sloat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jill --

I think he could have raised money as an openly gay candidate, but didn&#039;t think it through, or his heart wasn&#039;t in making the race.  The gay community itself could have been a fundraising target, and easily was reachable through the Internet.  Over and over in recent years, it has been demonstrated that interest groups will give, and give big, via the Web if they feel they have a stake in a political contest.  Additionally, I believe Tim Brown could possibly have become a figure of some import in the ongoing national debate about rights, equality and sexual orientation if he had entered the contest for OH-05.  His race would not have been a dull as dishwater NW Ohio contest conducted in near obscurity.

I just don&#039;t believe that race, religion, gender or sexual orientation should immediately disqualify, or self-disqualify, a person from seeking office.

Jill, I&#039;m not saying Tim Brown would be the winner, or should be the winner of an election for Congress.  Just saying that people would have paid attention, perhaps been riveted, and maybe a barrier would fall.  The reaction to his candidacy might have been akin to what happened in OH-02 when Paul Hackett ran in the 2005 special election.  Suddenly, everyone seemed to take notice.  This time it would have occurred much quicker than it did in 2005.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jill &#8211;</p>
<p>I think he could have raised money as an openly gay candidate, but didn&#8217;t think it through, or his heart wasn&#8217;t in making the race.  The gay community itself could have been a fundraising target, and easily was reachable through the Internet.  Over and over in recent years, it has been demonstrated that interest groups will give, and give big, via the Web if they feel they have a stake in a political contest.  Additionally, I believe Tim Brown could possibly have become a figure of some import in the ongoing national debate about rights, equality and sexual orientation if he had entered the contest for OH-05.  His race would not have been a dull as dishwater NW Ohio contest conducted in near obscurity.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t believe that race, religion, gender or sexual orientation should immediately disqualify, or self-disqualify, a person from seeking office.</p>
<p>Jill, I&#8217;m not saying Tim Brown would be the winner, or should be the winner of an election for Congress.  Just saying that people would have paid attention, perhaps been riveted, and maybe a barrier would fall.  The reaction to his candidacy might have been akin to what happened in OH-02 when Paul Hackett ran in the 2005 special election.  Suddenly, everyone seemed to take notice.  This time it would have occurred much quicker than it did in 2005.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott A. Pullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott A. Pullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are exceptions, Bob Casey etc., but your party would likely treat a pro-life, anti-gay candidate badly too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are exceptions, Bob Casey etc., but your party would likely treat a pro-life, anti-gay candidate badly too.</p>
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