Comments on: Investor’s Daily Business: muddles info on Mandel, Ohio and divestment http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/ "She is very powerful, so be nice to her." Former Chancellor, Ohio Board of Regents, Eric Fingerhut Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:51:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jill Miller Zimon http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/comment-page-1/#comment-30654 Jill Miller Zimon Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:07:51 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/#comment-30654 John - thank you - I appreciate that very much. John – thank you – I appreciate that very much.

]]> By: John Curry http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/comment-page-1/#comment-30653 John Curry Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:55:15 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/#comment-30653 Jill....here is where I found out that divestiture is not forced in Israel. The copy below is from the Asia Times. Please go down to the third paragraph. John Source: http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IG14Ak01.html Jill….here is where I found out that divestiture is not forced in Israel. The copy below is from the Asia Times. Please go down to the third paragraph. John
Source: http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IG14Ak01.html

]]> By: Jill Miller Zimon http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/comment-page-1/#comment-30636 Jill Miller Zimon Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:42:20 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/#comment-30636 June, thanks for reading and commenting. You also make good points. Now, one thing I will say about Israel, I don't know what it calls itself, but its economic structure, taxes and all, is closer to socialism than ours, I believe - at least, it was when I was there (84-85). So the gov't's reach into private money might, historically be different - I don't know that, I'm just saying, I'm not sure that our systems are apples to apples. June, thanks for reading and commenting. You also make good points. Now, one thing I will say about Israel, I don’t know what it calls itself, but its economic structure, taxes and all, is closer to socialism than ours, I believe – at least, it was when I was there (84-85). So the gov’t's reach into private money might, historically be different – I don’t know that, I’m just saying, I’m not sure that our systems are apples to apples.

]]> By: Jill Miller Zimon http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/comment-page-1/#comment-30635 Jill Miller Zimon Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:40:13 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/#comment-30635 John, you know I believe that you ask excellent questions. I'm embarrassingly unfamiliar with Israel's regulations over its investments - you don't happen to know a source you trust? John, you know I believe that you ask excellent questions. I’m embarrassingly unfamiliar with Israel’s regulations over its investments – you don’t happen to know a source you trust?

]]> By: June http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/comment-page-1/#comment-30632 June Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:21:38 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/#comment-30632 BIG Dittos John. Why should a foreign country - Israel - have any say so over privately earned monies. The question arises of why would our US government allow those foreign influences into our monetary lives. Let's not forget, though Mandel is in Iraq being a good soldier, he is also being paid for being a legislature in absentia AND receiving military pay. Is anything of his earnings being divested? And are any of the Ohio legislative members also divesting? Why only retirement funds of some Ohioians? Some retirees have had to sell their homes to pay for medical bills and costs!! Lets not create any more low income citizens because of interference with nonstate retirement systems members' private contributions. BIG Dittos John.
Why should a foreign country – Israel – have any say so over privately earned monies. The question arises of why would our US government allow those foreign influences into our monetary lives. Let’s not forget, though Mandel is in Iraq being a good soldier, he is also being paid for being a legislature in absentia AND receiving military pay. Is anything of his earnings being divested? And are any of the Ohio legislative members also divesting? Why only retirement funds of some Ohioians? Some retirees have had to sell their homes to pay for medical bills and costs!! Lets not create any more low income citizens because of interference with nonstate retirement systems members’ private contributions.

]]> By: John Curry http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/comment-page-1/#comment-30631 John Curry Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:38:15 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2007/09/30/investors-daily-business-muddles-info-on-mandel-ohio-and-divestment/#comment-30631 Jill, I appreciate Josh Mandel's service to our country and detest terrorism as much as my fellow Buckeyes. I must add that I also detest (with equal compassion) a bill that (as written) does not require banks, investment houses, and every Ohio citizen to equally share in the sacrifice of divestiture. My retirement system's (STRS Ohio) chief investments officer , Stephen Mitchell, estimates that a Mandel enforced divestment will cost our system between 70 and 100 million dollars to implement. This money is direly needed for a system who charges a retiree and spouse more than $600 monthly healthcare premiums while some retirees are making the choice between food or medicine. If this divestment is to remain fair to ALL Ohioans then it must equally affect ALL Ohioans...not just the stakeholders of Ohio's public pension systems and then..just those who have monies in the defined benefits retirements of these systems. Why doesn't Josh's bill apply to all Ohioans and Ohio businesses enterprises? Also, Why does Israel not have mandatory divestment with companies doing business with Iran despite Israel's former Prime Minister's appearances in the U.S. to pressure divestment by U.S. public retirement systems and no other U.S. public entities? Why doesn't Benjamin practice what he preaches on the home front? John Curry Jill,
I appreciate Josh Mandel’s service to our country and detest terrorism as much as my fellow Buckeyes. I must add that I also detest (with equal compassion) a bill that (as written) does not require banks, investment houses, and every Ohio citizen to equally share in the sacrifice of divestiture. My retirement system’s (STRS Ohio) chief investments officer , Stephen Mitchell, estimates that a Mandel enforced divestment will cost our system between 70 and 100 million dollars to implement. This money is direly needed for a system who charges a retiree and spouse more than $600 monthly healthcare premiums while some retirees are making the choice between food or medicine.

If this divestment is to remain fair to ALL Ohioans then it must equally affect ALL Ohioans…not just the stakeholders of Ohio’s public pension systems and then..just those who have monies in the defined benefits retirements of these systems. Why doesn’t Josh’s bill apply to all Ohioans and Ohio businesses enterprises?

Also, Why does Israel not have mandatory divestment with companies doing business with Iran despite Israel’s former Prime Minister’s appearances in the U.S. to pressure divestment by U.S. public retirement systems and no other U.S. public entities? Why doesn’t Benjamin practice what he preaches on the home front?
John Curry

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