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	<title>Comments on: Remains of the day, 12-17-07</title>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave wrote:
&quot;And is Bob Kerrey being serious? I doubt it. Obama would be almost impossible to elect in a general election for exactly the reasons that Bob Kerrey listed as huge Obama strengths, in addition to being new and untested.&quot;

So you&#039;re saying the country is too full of bigots, haters and fear mongers to elect Obama? Just come out and say it then!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave wrote:<br />
&#8220;And is Bob Kerrey being serious? I doubt it. Obama would be almost impossible to elect in a general election for exactly the reasons that Bob Kerrey listed as huge Obama strengths, in addition to being new and untested.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re saying the country is too full of bigots, haters and fear mongers to elect Obama? Just come out and say it then!</p>
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		<title>By: Have Coffee Will Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Have Coffee Will Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Questions of Jewish Identity. Hat tip to Jill.   digg_url=&quot;http://havecoffeewillwrite.com/?p=5978&quot;; digg_skin = &#039;compact&#039;;    Filed under: Being A [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Questions of Jewish Identity. Hat tip to Jill.   digg_url=&#8221;http://havecoffeewillwrite.com/?p=5978&#8243;; digg_skin = &#8216;compact&#8217;;    Filed under: Being A [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - I agree with only part of that.

First - Botox and any person does have some root in how women (or men for that matter) think others see them - Hollywood, looking young, bla bla bla.  But it&#039;s also done to make you feel better about yourself - so that when you look in the mirror, you don&#039;t feel depressed - though of course that &quot;depression&quot; has external roots.

But, with the name change - you aren&#039;t recommending it in relation to anything having to do with Obama&#039;s embarrassment are you?  You&#039;re suggesting it because of how others view it/hear it/think about it when then see or hear it.

That&#039;s very different, though closer to the Botox reason based on how others react to aging appearances.

No one should be changing their name because of the prejudice of other people.  I went through this myself when I got married - my maiden name is Miller.  I was reluctant to change it to Zimon because I knew it would sound more Jewish.  I realized that that just wasn&#039;t a good enough reason - how others might change in reaction to me because I have a more Jewish-sounding last name.  Remember, I went through a Catholic univ. as a blond with no NYC accent and an Amish last name.  There were friends, people I knew for three years, who didn&#039;t know I was Jewish until there was a scheduling scuffle over a Jewish holiday and I became very outspoken.

So - again - I would ask you - instead of writing about how, it&#039;s just so awful it is this way but that&#039;s what he should do, why aren&#039;t you advocating that he use himself as an example of someone who won&#039;t change it and makes it emblematic?

I don&#039;t know if you followed Subodh Chandra&#039;s campaign in the Dem AG primary, but he embraced his name. He didn&#039;t win, but it wasn&#039;t because of his name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; I agree with only part of that.</p>
<p>First &#8211; Botox and any person does have some root in how women (or men for that matter) think others see them &#8211; Hollywood, looking young, bla bla bla.  But it&#8217;s also done to make you feel better about yourself &#8211; so that when you look in the mirror, you don&#8217;t feel depressed &#8211; though of course that &#8220;depression&#8221; has external roots.</p>
<p>But, with the name change &#8211; you aren&#8217;t recommending it in relation to anything having to do with Obama&#8217;s embarrassment are you?  You&#8217;re suggesting it because of how others view it/hear it/think about it when then see or hear it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s very different, though closer to the Botox reason based on how others react to aging appearances.</p>
<p>No one should be changing their name because of the prejudice of other people.  I went through this myself when I got married &#8211; my maiden name is Miller.  I was reluctant to change it to Zimon because I knew it would sound more Jewish.  I realized that that just wasn&#8217;t a good enough reason &#8211; how others might change in reaction to me because I have a more Jewish-sounding last name.  Remember, I went through a Catholic univ. as a blond with no NYC accent and an Amish last name.  There were friends, people I knew for three years, who didn&#8217;t know I was Jewish until there was a scheduling scuffle over a Jewish holiday and I became very outspoken.</p>
<p>So &#8211; again &#8211; I would ask you &#8211; instead of writing about how, it&#8217;s just so awful it is this way but that&#8217;s what he should do, why aren&#8217;t you advocating that he use himself as an example of someone who won&#8217;t change it and makes it emblematic?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you followed Subodh Chandra&#8217;s campaign in the Dem AG primary, but he embraced his name. He didn&#8217;t win, but it wasn&#8217;t because of his name.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, in an ideal world, Hillary wouldn&#039;t need to do botox either, but there you are.  

If I was managing his campaign, that would be my advice.  If he wants to keep it real, well kudos to him, but it&#039;s still going to hurt him down the stretch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in an ideal world, Hillary wouldn&#8217;t need to do botox either, but there you are.  </p>
<p>If I was managing his campaign, that would be my advice.  If he wants to keep it real, well kudos to him, but it&#8217;s still going to hurt him down the stretch.</p>
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