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	<title>Comments on: Looping, or just loopy? In defense of political experience, at the risk of political entrenchment</title>
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		<title>By: How to build a political party platform, 2008 &#124; Writes Like She Talks</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to build a political party platform, 2008 &#124; Writes Like She Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Village - thanks for a great comment.

I really support this: &quot;Instead of No Child Left Behind policies, how about every child deserves the best education possible? Instead of the constant testing and measuring in the vain attempt to get everybody to the same point at the same time, how about looking at each child’s individual needs?&quot;  That&#039;s a big carrion cry in gifted ed, as you may know.  The new value-added analysis is supposed to help but...I&#039;m not hearing great things about it right now.

As for the Hil/Barack thing, yeah - I know - I suppose we shouldn&#039;t be surprised that two candidates who are a bit yin and yang are out there - it&#039;s pretty rare that someone with it all reaches the stages they have.  But working together?  I don&#039;t know - I have to tell you, I think Obama has shown some serious, serious intense dislike for Clinton.  At times, it&#039;s been almost as scary to see on his face as the steel fortitude of Clinton that seems so cold and calculating.

What do you think??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Village &#8211; thanks for a great comment.</p>
<p>I really support this: &#8220;Instead of No Child Left Behind policies, how about every child deserves the best education possible? Instead of the constant testing and measuring in the vain attempt to get everybody to the same point at the same time, how about looking at each child’s individual needs?&#8221;  That&#8217;s a big carrion cry in gifted ed, as you may know.  The new value-added analysis is supposed to help but&#8230;I&#8217;m not hearing great things about it right now.</p>
<p>As for the Hil/Barack thing, yeah &#8211; I know &#8211; I suppose we shouldn&#8217;t be surprised that two candidates who are a bit yin and yang are out there &#8211; it&#8217;s pretty rare that someone with it all reaches the stages they have.  But working together?  I don&#8217;t know &#8211; I have to tell you, I think Obama has shown some serious, serious intense dislike for Clinton.  At times, it&#8217;s been almost as scary to see on his face as the steel fortitude of Clinton that seems so cold and calculating.</p>
<p>What do you think??</p>
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		<title>By: Village Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Village Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful post, Jill.  I can attest to the power of &quot;looping.&quot;  At the public arts school where I teach, all of us arts teachers have the privilege of guiding our students for up to five years, during a critical growth period in their young lives.  (grades 4 - 8)  Although their academic teachers change yearly, the students have their arts teachers as the constant ears and eyes focused on their artistic and academic progress.  We are keenly aware of our students&#039; development over time. We can ease the transition from one year&#039;s academic level to the next and we are always available to give insight into how their minds, bodies, characters are developing.

  It&#039;s all about how to get the young bird out of the nest and able to soar on her/his own. Our wonderfully diverse and gifted students have also achieved Excellence on every NCLB report card.

I would support the idea of more looping in elementary and middle schools.  In urban schools especially, many students need a constant in their chaotic young lives.

Richardson was correct to be campaigning for more arts (especially more drama and dance) in the schools. Add in teaching methods that incorporate the multiple intelligences and other progressive education policies.  Instead of slapping uniforms on kids as an attempt to gloss over problems, it is time to focus on individual needs.  Instead of No Child Left Behind policies, how about every child deserves the best education possible?  Instead of the constant testing and measuring in the vain attempt to get everybody to the same point at the same time, how about looking at each child&#039;s individual needs? 

As for Hil the problem solver vs Barack the poet-orator, I&#039;d like them both on the same ticket. That would neatly side-step the gender vs minority quandary. Can&#039;t we have change and experience at the same time?  What we need are intelligent, creative and dedicated people who are able to work together to solve problems.  (The latter are skills that are learned effectively through the arts.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful post, Jill.  I can attest to the power of &#8220;looping.&#8221;  At the public arts school where I teach, all of us arts teachers have the privilege of guiding our students for up to five years, during a critical growth period in their young lives.  (grades 4 &#8211; <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' />  Although their academic teachers change yearly, the students have their arts teachers as the constant ears and eyes focused on their artistic and academic progress.  We are keenly aware of our students&#8217; development over time. We can ease the transition from one year&#8217;s academic level to the next and we are always available to give insight into how their minds, bodies, characters are developing.</p>
<p>  It&#8217;s all about how to get the young bird out of the nest and able to soar on her/his own. Our wonderfully diverse and gifted students have also achieved Excellence on every NCLB report card.</p>
<p>I would support the idea of more looping in elementary and middle schools.  In urban schools especially, many students need a constant in their chaotic young lives.</p>
<p>Richardson was correct to be campaigning for more arts (especially more drama and dance) in the schools. Add in teaching methods that incorporate the multiple intelligences and other progressive education policies.  Instead of slapping uniforms on kids as an attempt to gloss over problems, it is time to focus on individual needs.  Instead of No Child Left Behind policies, how about every child deserves the best education possible?  Instead of the constant testing and measuring in the vain attempt to get everybody to the same point at the same time, how about looking at each child&#8217;s individual needs? </p>
<p>As for Hil the problem solver vs Barack the poet-orator, I&#8217;d like them both on the same ticket. That would neatly side-step the gender vs minority quandary. Can&#8217;t we have change and experience at the same time?  What we need are intelligent, creative and dedicated people who are able to work together to solve problems.  (The latter are skills that are learned effectively through the arts.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Lunch Date! It was, obviously, a very thought provoking lunch.  I&#039;m thinking a whole day excursion somewhere might be necessary next time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Lunch Date! It was, obviously, a very thought provoking lunch.  I&#8217;m thinking a whole day excursion somewhere might be necessary next time!</p>
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		<title>By: Your Lunch Date</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Lunch Date</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great summary of our lunch discussion.

You managed to place a few doubts in my mind, but after giving it some more thought, I am still willing to pass up the path well-trod for the path not yet taken. 

Looping only works for the good when you are on the right track. Otherwise, you just get dizzy.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great summary of our lunch discussion.</p>
<p>You managed to place a few doubts in my mind, but after giving it some more thought, I am still willing to pass up the path well-trod for the path not yet taken. </p>
<p>Looping only works for the good when you are on the right track. Otherwise, you just get dizzy.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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