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	<title>Comments on: [updated] Leave it to men to trash a respected, passionate, experienced Ohio female politician</title>
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	<description>&#34;She is very powerful, so be nice to her.&#34; Chancellor, Ohio Board of Regents, Eric Fingerhut</description>
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		<title>By: Paulson Bernanke or Bernanke Paulson? &#124; Writes Like She Talks</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/01/18/leave-it-to-men-to-trash-a-respected-passionate-experienced-ohio-female-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-59404</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulson Bernanke or Bernanke Paulson? &#124; Writes Like She Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marcy.  Totally see it.  Especially if photoshop a little facial hair on or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Marcy.  Totally see it.  Especially if photoshop a little facial hair on or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George Bush makes Marcy Kaptur look so good &#124; Writes Like She Talks</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Bush makes Marcy Kaptur look so good &#124; Writes Like She Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is for all you hoo-hahs who wanted to thump Ohio congresswoman Marcy Kaptur for finding Ben Bernanke and Henry Paulson indistinguishable from one another. Given the number of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is for all you hoo-hahs who wanted to thump Ohio congresswoman Marcy Kaptur for finding Ben Bernanke and Henry Paulson indistinguishable from one another. Given the number of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have given me reason to, at the least, add you to my feeds of Ohio blogs I follow, and I will do that.

I agree with your expectations stated above but I would say as for the bribing, we can&#039;t control or get rid of people who offer bribes, so we can&#039;t exactly expect that an elected person won&#039;t BE bribed.  However, we should expect that an elected person will reject the bribe and report the person or people who are trying to gain favor that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have given me reason to, at the least, add you to my feeds of Ohio blogs I follow, and I will do that.</p>
<p>I agree with your expectations stated above but I would say as for the bribing, we can&#8217;t control or get rid of people who offer bribes, so we can&#8217;t exactly expect that an elected person won&#8217;t BE bribed.  However, we should expect that an elected person will reject the bribe and report the person or people who are trying to gain favor that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, if you would read my blog you would see that I shell it out for everyone.

I have an expectation that a senator should not be in a restroom stall trying to get sexual services.

I have an expectation that a congressperson should not be bribed.

I have an expectation that a president should not commit perjury in a legal proceeding and any spouse that defends such behavior is unelectable

It goes on and on....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, if you would read my blog you would see that I shell it out for everyone.</p>
<p>I have an expectation that a senator should not be in a restroom stall trying to get sexual services.</p>
<p>I have an expectation that a congressperson should not be bribed.</p>
<p>I have an expectation that a president should not commit perjury in a legal proceeding and any spouse that defends such behavior is unelectable</p>
<p>It goes on and on&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/01/18/leave-it-to-men-to-trash-a-respected-passionate-experienced-ohio-female-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-45130</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon - I&#039;m not pandering here - I really do appreciate you taking the time to explain how you see it.  I don&#039;t think we&#039;re going to agree, though.  If you do in fact have that expectation you outline in the end of the most recent comment, then I look forward to watching your blog follow the mistakes the politicians make - all of them, from both sides.  But I don&#039;t think you or anyone can do that or SHOULD be doing that, and I don&#039;t think the media should be highlighting any but the most egregious errors and if they do, they should put them in a monthly, &quot;Look who&#039;s slipped&quot; column or something, since it truly does seem to happen with regularity.

Hitchens is off his rocker these days based on what I&#039;ve been reading by him.  I stopped taking him seriously about two months ago.

I resent - seriously, I resent you saying I have a lower expectation because she is female.  That is nonsense to anyone who knows me - if anything, I expect more from women, because we always have to do more, show more, say more, be more.  If you want to have a longer discussion on that point, I&#039;m always game - it&#039;s a fascinating topic.

Again - the issue here is why the media covered it at all and the different way in which it got covered.  That&#039;s what raised my ire.

And I do thank you for reading and commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon &#8211; I&#8217;m not pandering here &#8211; I really do appreciate you taking the time to explain how you see it.  I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re going to agree, though.  If you do in fact have that expectation you outline in the end of the most recent comment, then I look forward to watching your blog follow the mistakes the politicians make &#8211; all of them, from both sides.  But I don&#8217;t think you or anyone can do that or SHOULD be doing that, and I don&#8217;t think the media should be highlighting any but the most egregious errors and if they do, they should put them in a monthly, &#8220;Look who&#8217;s slipped&#8221; column or something, since it truly does seem to happen with regularity.</p>
<p>Hitchens is off his rocker these days based on what I&#8217;ve been reading by him.  I stopped taking him seriously about two months ago.</p>
<p>I resent &#8211; seriously, I resent you saying I have a lower expectation because she is female.  That is nonsense to anyone who knows me &#8211; if anything, I expect more from women, because we always have to do more, show more, say more, be more.  If you want to have a longer discussion on that point, I&#8217;m always game &#8211; it&#8217;s a fascinating topic.</p>
<p>Again &#8211; the issue here is why the media covered it at all and the different way in which it got covered.  That&#8217;s what raised my ire.</p>
<p>And I do thank you for reading and commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m saying this is was congressional hearing not some mistaken identity at a grocery store. She was to prepare to question a witness at a hearing. She is a member of this committee right? She should know who the hell she&#039;s about to question.

You and I both know she was up there to grandstand (by the way a problem with both parties at these stupid hearings)and shove it in the face of a Bushie. 

I expect more from an elected official, male or female; democrat or republican, black or white. I think you have a lower expectation because she&#039;s female.

None other than Christopher Hitchens, not a garden variety conservative, says it best.

&quot;People who think with their epidermis or their genitalia or their clan are the problem to begin with. One does not banish this specter by invoking it. If I would not vote against someone on the grounds of &quot;race&quot; or &quot;gender&quot; alone, then by the exact same token I would not cast a vote in his or her favor for the identical reason.&quot;

I think you can extrapolate that to your position on this issue. Who cares if it was a male or female reporting the story? Who cares if it was a male or female screwing up? I don&#039;t care if it was a liberal or conservative. 

I have an expectation that if politicians are going to run these half ass hearings I expect that they should know who the hell they are questioning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m saying this is was congressional hearing not some mistaken identity at a grocery store. She was to prepare to question a witness at a hearing. She is a member of this committee right? She should know who the hell she&#8217;s about to question.</p>
<p>You and I both know she was up there to grandstand (by the way a problem with both parties at these stupid hearings)and shove it in the face of a Bushie. </p>
<p>I expect more from an elected official, male or female; democrat or republican, black or white. I think you have a lower expectation because she&#8217;s female.</p>
<p>None other than Christopher Hitchens, not a garden variety conservative, says it best.</p>
<p>&#8220;People who think with their epidermis or their genitalia or their clan are the problem to begin with. One does not banish this specter by invoking it. If I would not vote against someone on the grounds of &#8220;race&#8221; or &#8220;gender&#8221; alone, then by the exact same token I would not cast a vote in his or her favor for the identical reason.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you can extrapolate that to your position on this issue. Who cares if it was a male or female reporting the story? Who cares if it was a male or female screwing up? I don&#8217;t care if it was a liberal or conservative. </p>
<p>I have an expectation that if politicians are going to run these half ass hearings I expect that they should know who the hell they are questioning.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/01/18/leave-it-to-men-to-trash-a-respected-passionate-experienced-ohio-female-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-45117</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon - you say more mistakes &quot;of this variety.&quot;  So - is this a variety that matters?

I take no responsibility for Quayle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon &#8211; you say more mistakes &#8220;of this variety.&#8221;  So &#8211; is this a variety that matters?</p>
<p>I take no responsibility for Quayle.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are willing to accept &quot;half ass&quot; from a congress person, male or female, then that&#039;s what you&#039;ll have.

She&#039;s made plenty of other mistakes of this variety where you have to question her smarts.

Just remember the flack Dan Quayle caught for spelling &quot;potatoe&quot;. 

Sounds like a double standard here and it&#039;s not from men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are willing to accept &#8220;half ass&#8221; from a congress person, male or female, then that&#8217;s what you&#8217;ll have.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s made plenty of other mistakes of this variety where you have to question her smarts.</p>
<p>Just remember the flack Dan Quayle caught for spelling &#8220;potatoe&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sounds like a double standard here and it&#8217;s not from men.</p>
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		<title>By: Glass City Jungle &#124; I&#8217;m so much worse than Marcy Kaptur&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glass City Jungle &#124; I&#8217;m so much worse than Marcy Kaptur&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] taking issue with those making a big deal  out of Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur mixing up the names of two people in the House that apparently the National Republican Congressional Committee thought was important [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lisa Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Steve Fought. Marcy can take it and it was a simple mistake, compared to some of the real mistakes that have been made by our elected officials, as one of her constituents...I can live with her mixing up two people.  Heck, I call my kids by the wrong names at times.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Steve Fought. Marcy can take it and it was a simple mistake, compared to some of the real mistakes that have been made by our elected officials, as one of her constituents&#8230;I can live with her mixing up two people.  Heck, I call my kids by the wrong names at times.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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