Love you, Eric.

“1. show just how much the man is not needed. Man no like not being needed”

“But saying “how much the man is not needed” when he is the spouse rubbed me the wrong way. I could never get away with saying the woman is not needed of a male Prez candidate – not that I would, but tossing the shoe over on the other foot, see. Nor would I want to. I have recognized for a long time that I’m currently the person I am and are becoming through the graciousness and patience of a woman I chanced to meet at Bernie’s Bagels one night.”

Ok – yes – I agree.

But what you say there is not the same as the way Bill is “standing by” Hillary. He needs to stop speaking for her, literally saying, “She will tell you” etc. To the extent he has value, it is as Bill Clinton (which is also the extent to which he is a hindrance) not because he can speak for Hillary. He can’t speak for her and she shouldn’t let him unless they agree on it. To say that they do in fact agree on it all, I will never buy that – no matter how much they work together.

Anyway – what you describe as standing by and being helped by one’s spouse is not the same as the way people are saying that Bill is acting. What he’s doing isn’t support, Eric. I just know you would not behave as he has, overstep boundaries as he has, come on.

Anyway – I agree – I am who I am because of ma’man, and he would say the same about me I am sure. But Bill is way beyond that, and that’s what I’m focused on, and the pundits I mention focused on.

Now – where’s that key?

But saying “how much the man is not needed” when he is the spouse rubbed me the wrong way. I could never get away with saying the woman is not needed of a male Prez candidate – not that I would, but tossing the shoe over on the other foot, see. Nor would I want to. I have recognized for a long time that I’m currently the person I am and are becoming through the graciousness and patience of a woman I chanced to meet at Bernie’s Bagels one night.

OK, gotta run. Need to ask Holly where the hell the safety deposit box key is!

I hear what you’re saying, I know a lot of folks think it’s an act and have reason to think so. I could too. But I don’t – just my intuition. I’ve been wrong – I voted for McGovern in 4th grade. But it’s my choice to make and say, she was being real.

You know, part of the whole thing here really is the next gen issue of who can be a president: single people. There are more single women than there are married women now. Can a single woman ever be president? We need to re-examine this whole thing about someone standing by someone’s side etc. I’m sure there’s lots of research out there on this issue related to corporate leadership and marriage.

But the presidency – I mean, have you heard ANYONE utter whether a single person could do it, should do it, will do it?

So – you see, I just have always had this thing, Eric – I’m not going to be the woman who says that she doesn’t know where the safety deposit box key is when her husband dies because I just always thought he’d be there. Likewise, I’m just not so sure the man is the needed next to the woman, OR the man. How biased is that, you know, against single adults?

As for the Ohio blogger in question, I’ll leave for the next time we meet but if you search on Ohio blogs and narcissist, you’ll find a coment or post somewhere by me about it.

So the only reason she needs to be seen as standing alone is that he used to be the President? I did not get that in your “show how much the man is not needed” bit. It seemed then that you were not so much talking about power and the ability to stand on your own, but about being woman and being able to. Big difference that.

My point was, and is, that sure the man is needed – as much as the woman who stands beside the male candidates is. This is where I think you might be overplaying.

I won’t go into the psychology of Hillary, else the day become about it. Nor will I inject what the woman who stands beside me might think. You can ask her if you like. Might not like the answer. She was a Women’s Studies major, but doesn’t appear to be buying into the Hear Hillary Roar bit (as far as I can tell), but again you’d have to ask her direct.

When I apologize, I am sincere. There is nothing I can do on the other end of that equation, so I tend not to concern myself with it. There is no need for convincing others.

As for the Ohio blogger in question, I can only make wild guesses as to the subject of such commentary. I’d implore you to clarify such that we all might fully understand the point you were making.

PS – It’s official. I’ve been watching too much Deadwood and my phrase construction appears to have been permanently altered in manners previously unknown to me. LOL

Because the spouse hasn’t already been at the pinnacle of power, Eric. They are not similarly situated, to each other nor to the Clintons. Come on.