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		<title>By: Anti-Obama blogs targeted in Blogspot account shutdowns &#124; Writes Like She Talks</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/03/the-obama-join-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-88041</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti-Obama blogs targeted in Blogspot account shutdowns &#124; Writes Like She Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other than George Carlin spoke about the very thing that bugged me a long time ago about the Obama campaign attitude, &#8220;Join.&#8221;  He said it on the Larry King show in 1990: CARLIN: People are great one at a time. In them, you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] other than George Carlin spoke about the very thing that bugged me a long time ago about the Obama campaign attitude, &#8220;Join.&#8221;  He said it on the Larry King show in 1990: CARLIN: People are great one at a time. In them, you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Separate the people from the point: Lesson #1 &#124; Writes Like She Talks</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/03/the-obama-join-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-73436</link>
		<dc:creator>Separate the people from the point: Lesson #1 &#124; Writes Like She Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] me be crystal clear: I don&#8217;t like and often overtly do not tolerate being told to sit down, get with the program or shut up, whether the message is sent as a subtle euphemism or otherwise. And I agree that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] me be crystal clear: I don&#8217;t like and often overtly do not tolerate being told to sit down, get with the program or shut up, whether the message is sent as a subtle euphemism or otherwise. And I agree that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Morra Aarons: "Obama is the establishment" &#124; Writes Like She Talks</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/03/the-obama-join-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-50475</link>
		<dc:creator>Morra Aarons: "Obama is the establishment" &#124; Writes Like She Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post of mine about the Obama &#8220;Join&#8221; ad has a similar tone in its comment thread. And I&#8217;m absolutely fine with being the one to tell the partying neighbors to be quiet. My name doesn&#8217;t rhyme with &#8220;pill&#8221; for nothing.  function toggleview(element1) { var element1 = document.getElementById(element1); if (element1.style.display == &#039;block&#039; &#124;&#124; element1.style.display == &#039;&#039;){ element1.style.display = &#039;none&#039;; }else{ element1.style.display = &#039;block&#039;; element1.style.position = &#039;absolute&#039;; } return; }   copy and paste... &lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;ve said some of the very same words, though not nearly as coherently as Morra Aarons does in this post, about how, for all the newness Barack Obama projects, he&#039;s got some very not-so-new folks at his elbow and beyond. Aarons writes: Being a Hillary supporter is like being the... &lt;small&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/11/morra-aarons-obama-is-the-establishment/&quot;&gt;Morra Aarons: &quot;Obama is the establishment&quot;&lt;/a&gt; - http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;  Sphere: Related Content [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post of mine about the Obama &#8220;Join&#8221; ad has a similar tone in its comment thread. And I&#8217;m absolutely fine with being the one to tell the partying neighbors to be quiet. My name doesn&#8217;t rhyme with &#8220;pill&#8221; for nothing.  function toggleview(element1) { var element1 = document.getElementById(element1); if (element1.style.display == &#8216;block&#8217; || element1.style.display == &#8221;){ element1.style.display = &#8216;none&#8217;; }else{ element1.style.display = &#8216;block&#8217;; element1.style.position = &#8216;absolute&#8217;; } return; }   copy and paste&#8230; &lt;blockquote&gt;I&#8217;ve said some of the very same words, though not nearly as coherently as Morra Aarons does in this post, about how, for all the newness Barack Obama projects, he&#8217;s got some very not-so-new folks at his elbow and beyond. Aarons writes: Being a Hillary supporter is like being the&#8230; &lt;small&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&#8221;http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/11/morra-aarons-obama-is-the-establishment/&#8221;&gt;Morra Aarons: &#8220;Obama is the establishment&#8221;&lt;/a&gt; &#8211; <a href="http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/blockquote&#038;gt" rel="nofollow">http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/blockquote&#038;gt</a>;  Sphere: Related Content [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/03/the-obama-join-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-49356</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey - I know you are giving a pep talk and I do the same for people more cynical and less active than me (and that is possible, you know!). :)

So I hear what you&#039;re saying and will take it under advisement - seriously.

I can tell you that the idea of Huckabee being anywhere near power in our federal government definitely will move me to more action.

So let&#039;s just see.  Everyone has their own trajectory.

Btw, I wasn&#039;t raised in Ohio - I moved here in 88 and always thought I&#039;d be back on the East Coast.  But I love it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; I know you are giving a pep talk and I do the same for people more cynical and less active than me (and that is possible, you know!). <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So I hear what you&#8217;re saying and will take it under advisement &#8211; seriously.</p>
<p>I can tell you that the idea of Huckabee being anywhere near power in our federal government definitely will move me to more action.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s just see.  Everyone has their own trajectory.</p>
<p>Btw, I wasn&#8217;t raised in Ohio &#8211; I moved here in 88 and always thought I&#8217;d be back on the East Coast.  But I love it here.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Butcher</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/03/the-obama-join-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-48876</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody  will pin you down and make outrageous demands.  What will happen, honestly, is that people will be really happy to see you, will be able to find any number of things for you to do, any of which you can say no to.

Listen, it gets lonely.  Some of these will be people who raised a stink about vote suppression, etc in your fine state.
(disclosure, I lived in Toledo through kindergarten, Marion through 7th grade, Springfield through HS grad. Columbus for awhile.  Took classes at Wright State U., spent summers in Port Clinton on parents&#039; Chris Craft cruiser - been around some)

Something to think on, I graduated HS in 1971, remember Ohio of &#039;71?  What&#039;s it like today after Bush, Clinton x2, Bush x2 ?  There was plenty wrong, but there was plenty right as well, today?  At least some new Dems in office, and...?  

I don&#039;t even recognize the country I live in today.  torture?  get disappeared?  Yes Nixon was a snake, but what???  Americans were dying at many multiples of Iraq in &#039;Nam, and the damn President had to resign because he covered up a couple idiots?  Today?

Sure, I&#039;m no Obama fan, but look at the alternatives.  How&#039;d Ohio do under Clinton?  Look it up.  Then there are the three blind mice on the other ticket, keeripes.  Boy it must be pretty hard to restrain yourself from trying to be a part of kicking their asses.

Look, I know you&#039;re hurtin&#039; and you need to take care of that.  But honey dear, there&#039;s a heck of a lot of hurtin&#039; goin on and some of us are smart enough and articulate enough, and thoughful enough to help do something about it.  By gad, if it turns out it&#039;s a crappy bunch, you &lt;b&gt;can&lt;/b&gt; quit.

/rant

I just told a friend of mine running Web for a Senate candidate she was my favorite gal blogger (she&#039;s no lady, pretty though), well, then you&#039;re my 2nd, and since she&#039;s &quot;retired due to employment&quot; I guess you&#039;re in good standing.  My round the barn point is you do good work here, but there is concrete stuff to be done as well and all of us could use that kind of help.

Thanks for even considering it,
Chuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody  will pin you down and make outrageous demands.  What will happen, honestly, is that people will be really happy to see you, will be able to find any number of things for you to do, any of which you can say no to.</p>
<p>Listen, it gets lonely.  Some of these will be people who raised a stink about vote suppression, etc in your fine state.<br />
(disclosure, I lived in Toledo through kindergarten, Marion through 7th grade, Springfield through HS grad. Columbus for awhile.  Took classes at Wright State U., spent summers in Port Clinton on parents&#8217; Chris Craft cruiser &#8211; been around some)</p>
<p>Something to think on, I graduated HS in 1971, remember Ohio of &#8217;71?  What&#8217;s it like today after Bush, Clinton x2, Bush x2 ?  There was plenty wrong, but there was plenty right as well, today?  At least some new Dems in office, and&#8230;?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even recognize the country I live in today.  torture?  get disappeared?  Yes Nixon was a snake, but what???  Americans were dying at many multiples of Iraq in &#8216;Nam, and the damn President had to resign because he covered up a couple idiots?  Today?</p>
<p>Sure, I&#8217;m no Obama fan, but look at the alternatives.  How&#8217;d Ohio do under Clinton?  Look it up.  Then there are the three blind mice on the other ticket, keeripes.  Boy it must be pretty hard to restrain yourself from trying to be a part of kicking their asses.</p>
<p>Look, I know you&#8217;re hurtin&#8217; and you need to take care of that.  But honey dear, there&#8217;s a heck of a lot of hurtin&#8217; goin on and some of us are smart enough and articulate enough, and thoughful enough to help do something about it.  By gad, if it turns out it&#8217;s a crappy bunch, you <b>can</b> quit.</p>
<p>/rant</p>
<p>I just told a friend of mine running Web for a Senate candidate she was my favorite gal blogger (she&#8217;s no lady, pretty though), well, then you&#8217;re my 2nd, and since she&#8217;s &#8220;retired due to employment&#8221; I guess you&#8217;re in good standing.  My round the barn point is you do good work here, but there is concrete stuff to be done as well and all of us could use that kind of help.</p>
<p>Thanks for even considering it,<br />
Chuck</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/03/the-obama-join-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-48841</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make good points with which I really cannot argue.  I can imagine myself testing the waters but also pulling my toes back out. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make good points with which I really cannot argue.  I can imagine myself testing the waters but also pulling my toes back out. lol</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Butcher</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/03/the-obama-join-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-48816</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill
I live in a 3500 sq mi county with a population of 14,000, there&#039;s not enough money to bother with.  If there is anything that is questionable it is keeping the show going.

That is one of the points of being involved, it cuts the opportunity for nonsense.  Over the years the State Party has ranged from a reputation for &quot;purity&quot; clique nonsense, or totally disconnected, to currently a very grassroots driven open Party. These things vary depending on the participants.  But the reality is that at 0.5% active participation the opportunity to make a difference is much greater than at the ballot box.

If nothing else, a pretty good level of conversation is found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill<br />
I live in a 3500 sq mi county with a population of 14,000, there&#8217;s not enough money to bother with.  If there is anything that is questionable it is keeping the show going.</p>
<p>That is one of the points of being involved, it cuts the opportunity for nonsense.  Over the years the State Party has ranged from a reputation for &#8220;purity&#8221; clique nonsense, or totally disconnected, to currently a very grassroots driven open Party. These things vary depending on the participants.  But the reality is that at 0.5% active participation the opportunity to make a difference is much greater than at the ballot box.</p>
<p>If nothing else, a pretty good level of conversation is found.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/03/the-obama-join-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-48804</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carole - you know that you and I often see things very similarly and I totally see how you see this election, or at least the candidates in the election.  I feel the same way about the use of the word &quot;change.&quot;

I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll get over all this, pick someone and work toward their election.  But I am kind of caught up in the &quot;which one&quot; of it right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carole &#8211; you know that you and I often see things very similarly and I totally see how you see this election, or at least the candidates in the election.  I feel the same way about the use of the word &#8220;change.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll get over all this, pick someone and work toward their election.  But I am kind of caught up in the &#8220;which one&#8221; of it right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/03/the-obama-join-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-48801</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck - thanks for sharing your experiences. Let me ask you though - just to continue with my cynical streak in this post, did you think that your county or state party, prior to your involvement with it, was corrupt or crooked? did it have that reputation? Because my county Dem party definitely has an unsavory reputation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck &#8211; thanks for sharing your experiences. Let me ask you though &#8211; just to continue with my cynical streak in this post, did you think that your county or state party, prior to your involvement with it, was corrupt or crooked? did it have that reputation? Because my county Dem party definitely has an unsavory reputation.</p>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/03/the-obama-join-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-48229</link>
		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word I am cringing at lately in this election is change. The cynic in me is starting to come out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word I am cringing at lately in this election is change. The cynic in me is starting to come out!</p>
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