Comments on: Huckabee: “I didn’t major in math. I majored in miracles…” http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/ "She is very powerful, so be nice to her." Chancellor, Ohio Board of Regents, Eric Fingerhut Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:44:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jill Miller Zimon http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-50604 Jill Miller Zimon Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:34:25 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/#comment-50604 Agreed, Eric - completely agree. Agreed, Eric – completely agree.

]]> By: Eric http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-50480 Eric Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:04:54 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/#comment-50480 This SHOULD end any chance Mike would have (as if he has any) of being President: “I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that’s what we need to do — to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than try to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.” Christians even, should bristle at such comments. The guy is delusional and catering to a very narrow demographic. If you want to modify The Constitution to model more closely your religious writings (whatever they be) you should be immediately stripped of your citizenship. Can we put that one up for consideration? Can I get a co-sponsor? This SHOULD end any chance Mike would have (as if he has any) of being President:

“I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that’s what we need to do — to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than try to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.”

Christians even, should bristle at such comments. The guy is delusional and catering to a very narrow demographic. If you want to modify The Constitution to model more closely your religious writings (whatever they be) you should be immediately stripped of your citizenship. Can we put that one up for consideration? Can I get a co-sponsor?

]]> By: Jill Miller Zimon http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-50377 Jill Miller Zimon Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:59:33 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/#comment-50377 <p>Ooo - thank you Tall Asian Dude re: Senator v. Governor - definitely typo. I'm correcting it but noting that yes, I did make that error - thanks again for noting it. And thanks for reading and leaving a comment - I love your about page on your blog.</p> Ooo – thank you Tall Asian Dude re: Senator v. Governor – definitely typo. I’m correcting it but noting that yes, I did make that error – thanks again for noting it. And thanks for reading and leaving a comment – I love your about page on your blog.

]]> By: tallasiandude http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-50373 tallasiandude Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:33:03 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/#comment-50373 As far as "performing rain dances to end droughts," perhaps you saw this headline a few months ago: <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2007-11-08-georgia-prayer_N.htm" rel="nofollow">"Ga. governor turns to prayer to ease drought"</a> It seems there are parts of this country that (sadly) are just fine with that sort of public policy. btw, for the record, it's Governor Huckabee. As far as “performing rain dances to end droughts,” perhaps you saw this headline a few months ago:

“Ga. governor turns to prayer to ease drought”

It seems there are parts of this country that (sadly) are just fine with that sort of public policy.

btw, for the record, it’s Governor Huckabee.

]]> By: Jill Miller Zimon http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-50353 Jill Miller Zimon Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:57:12 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/#comment-50353 <p>Glen - you wrote, "Just because there are people who want things more secular in a public forum does not mean he cannot relate to as many voters as he possibly can through the use of his religious beliefs."</p> <p>He certainly can choose, as can any candidate, whatever mechanism they believe will work best for them. Unfortunately, it makes their campaign seem just that: mechanical and calculated - and yes, I would apply that to all the candidates - every single one of them.</p> <p>The risk is that he loses or fails to gain the support of other voters and Americans. And all candidates are also welcome to take that risk.</p> <p>Frankly, if a candidate really isn't interested in meeting my needs or really doesn't share my philosophies, it's just as well that I know that.</p> <p>And I would say that <strike>Senator</strike> Governor Huckabee and I don't share too much.</p> Glen – you wrote, “Just because there are people who want things more secular in a public forum does not mean he cannot relate to as many voters as he possibly can through the use of his religious beliefs.”

He certainly can choose, as can any candidate, whatever mechanism they believe will work best for them. Unfortunately, it makes their campaign seem just that: mechanical and calculated – and yes, I would apply that to all the candidates – every single one of them.

The risk is that he loses or fails to gain the support of other voters and Americans. And all candidates are also welcome to take that risk.

Frankly, if a candidate really isn’t interested in meeting my needs or really doesn’t share my philosophies, it’s just as well that I know that.

And I would say that Senator Governor Huckabee and I don’t share too much.

]]> By: glen http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-50340 glen Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:20:52 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/#comment-50340 I've heard this argument before from friends of mine that are not Christian. "I don't want to hear about religion on the campaign trail!" Ok great to hear, but there are millions of Americans to whom a candidate's spirituality IS important. There are millions of Americans who share his views on alot of issues because, they too, have a Christian belief system/background. Catering to them in stump speeches as they are his strongest and most crucial base is about the most logical and intelligent thing he could do. Just because there are people who want things more secular in a public forum does not mean he cannot relate to as many voters as he possibly can through the use of his religious beliefs. It's like bashing Hillary for harping about being a woman and how tough it is when she's speaking at some pro-woman organization, or bashing Obama for talking about being black while speaking in Harlem. If you can take a look at Huckabee's webpage, read his posted stands on issues, find real issues to disagree with him and come back here to complain about THOSE, then you'd have a point. Just don't write a guy off or count him out because first and foremost he counts himself a Christian and is not afraid to say it. I wonder if anyone would have a problem with an Atheist candidate who talked about NOT believing in God... I’ve heard this argument before from friends of mine that are not Christian. “I don’t want to hear about religion on the campaign trail!” Ok great to hear, but there are millions of Americans to whom a candidate’s spirituality IS important. There are millions of Americans who share his views on alot of issues because, they too, have a Christian belief system/background. Catering to them in stump speeches as they are his strongest and most crucial base is about the most logical and intelligent thing he could do. Just because there are people who want things more secular in a public forum does not mean he cannot relate to as many voters as he possibly can through the use of his religious beliefs. It’s like bashing Hillary for harping about being a woman and how tough it is when she’s speaking at some pro-woman organization, or bashing Obama for talking about being black while speaking in Harlem. If you can take a look at Huckabee’s webpage, read his posted stands on issues, find real issues to disagree with him and come back here to complain about THOSE, then you’d have a point. Just don’t write a guy off or count him out because first and foremost he counts himself a Christian and is not afraid to say it.

I wonder if anyone would have a problem with an Atheist candidate who talked about NOT believing in God…

]]> By: Jill Miller Zimon http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-50274 Jill Miller Zimon Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:20:51 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/#comment-50274 Paul, no one has "to choose between being Christian and rational" to acknowledge that Mike Huckabee's statements strike some people as lacking or expressing the critical thinking skills, in part because he is relying on religion as the answer to problems. I'm not I understand why you think it's one of the other. The issue is that he routinely stumps in that style and, speaking only for myself, and I know you know this from other things I've written, I am completely uninterested in hearing about people's faith on the political campaign trail. I am not someone who wouldn't vote for an atheist because I think such people have no moral code. Religion is very, very personal and I do not like it uttered as much as it is, if at all, in the political realm. Huckabee' constant infusion of religion really turns me off. Why do you think anyone is saying that it is an either/or proposition for you? Paul, no one has “to choose between being Christian and rational” to acknowledge that Mike Huckabee’s statements strike some people as lacking or expressing the critical thinking skills, in part because he is relying on religion as the answer to problems. I’m not I understand why you think it’s one of the other.

The issue is that he routinely stumps in that style and, speaking only for myself, and I know you know this from other things I’ve written, I am completely uninterested in hearing about people’s faith on the political campaign trail. I am not someone who wouldn’t vote for an atheist because I think such people have no moral code.

Religion is very, very personal and I do not like it uttered as much as it is, if at all, in the political realm. Huckabee’ constant infusion of religion really turns me off.

Why do you think anyone is saying that it is an either/or proposition for you?

]]> By: Paul Lambert http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-50127 Paul Lambert Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:58:10 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/#comment-50127 So I have to choose between being Christian and rational??? Your comments are astonishingly condescending and insulting. I see no further purpose for this dialog. So I have to choose between being Christian and rational??? Your comments are astonishingly condescending and insulting. I see no further purpose for this dialog.

]]> By: Ben Harrison http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-49969 Ben Harrison Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:09:49 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/#comment-49969 Paul - I wouldn't say the choice is between being Christian and intelectual - I'd say rational. You say Huckabee "wouldn’t be afraid to include a little prayer in the mix either" and you phrase that like it's a virtue in a modern world leader. What if Huckabee wanted to perform rain dances to end droughts? Or make sacrifices to Poseidon to prevent hurricanes and tsunamis? The only reason you defend his religious irrationality is because it's similar to yours. I don't know why critical thinking skills don't seem to be a prerequisite for being president. You'd think that would come in handy. Paul – I wouldn’t say the choice is between being Christian and intelectual – I’d say rational.

You say Huckabee “wouldn’t be afraid to include a little prayer in the mix either” and you phrase that like it’s a virtue in a modern world leader. What if Huckabee wanted to perform rain dances to end droughts? Or make sacrifices to Poseidon to prevent hurricanes and tsunamis? The only reason you defend his religious irrationality is because it’s similar to yours.

I don’t know why critical thinking skills don’t seem to be a prerequisite for being president. You’d think that would come in handy.

]]> By: Jill Miller Zimon http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-49805 Jill Miller Zimon Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:39:45 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/09/huckabee-i-didnt-major-in-math-i-majored-in-miracles/#comment-49805 Paul - I've expressed what it sounds like to me. His reliance on his faith is overwhelming to me as someone who expects elected officials to be secular. How do you suggest I express that sentiment? Paul – I’ve expressed what it sounds like to me. His reliance on his faith is overwhelming to me as someone who expects elected officials to be secular.

How do you suggest I express that sentiment?

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