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Eric Vessels of Plunderbund bandies with the BBC on Obama, Clinton, debate


Did he say PlunderLAND?

Congrats to Eric Vessels for his contribution to the BBC’s round-up of what’s the state of the race in the state that hopes to swing the United States into a new state of being.

They spoke with me for yesterday as well during the day but, as we know, I’m undecided and they wanted an unabashed Hillary supporter and an unabashed Barack supporter.

Why, if I’m undecided, did they call me? Because a few birds around the blogs told them to call me for the Hillary supporter.  Tsk tsk tsk. ;)

By Jill Miller Zimon at 11:56 am February 27th, 2008 in 'Roots News, Barack Obama, Blogging, Campaigning, Debates, Elections, Hillary Clinton, Ohio, Politics, WH2008 

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13 Responses to “Eric Vessels of Plunderbund bandies with the BBC on Obama, Clinton, debate”

  1. 1 tim russo on February 27th, 2008 12:02 pm

    just say it jill. say you support hillary. we’ll still love you.

  2. 2 Jill Miller Zimon on February 27th, 2008 12:03 pm

    Why, either way, do people care so much about my vote? This is obsessive, guys.

  3. 3 Eric on February 27th, 2008 12:07 pm

    @2: because you are a powerful voice in the Ohio blogosphere. of course people care what you think.

    tx for the love, btw! wished they had given me more than one word in that last reply. shoulda just gone all “health care hillary” on their asses and talked for 15 minutes. ;-)

  4. 4 tim russo on February 27th, 2008 12:08 pm

    because you’re claiming this undecided mantle, and it’s clearly not reality. besides, being on the BBC ain’t all that. SkyNews is a better get. no one listens at 3.30 am anyway.

  5. 5 Eric on February 27th, 2008 12:09 pm

    Gooooood Morning London!

    London?

    Hello?

  6. 6 Jill Miller Zimon on February 27th, 2008 12:12 pm

    Russo – don’t make me swear – my blog is already like a PG-13.

    Point to your evidence that what you call “my claim” isn’t reality.

    In this case, you are all acting as badly as Tom and Dave when I was blogging on Wide Open and they and the conservative commenters would try to bash me until I would get off the fence about something.

    What is with this disrespect for someone being undecided and freaking HONEST about that?

    Seriously. You guys are having trouble with the fact that some people can’t make a decision – maybe because they don’t like either of their choices.

  7. 7 Jill Miller Zimon on February 27th, 2008 12:15 pm

    And let me add for the record, you can’t stand that you can put out universe-sized reams of information into cyberspace and someone still might not want YOUR candidate – in ANY race, not just this one.

    Interestingly, for being such big supporters of Obama, maybe it’s that he can do things you can’t – which is to see other people’s perspectives and points of view, even if he doesn’t see something the same way. I guess we want in others, esp. our leaders, those things we ourselves lack.

  8. 8 tim russo on February 27th, 2008 12:40 pm

    sorry jill. still luv ya.

  9. 9 Jill Miller Zimon on February 27th, 2008 12:49 pm

    Tim – nothing to be sorry about. I just don’t know why the chiding keeps bubbling up. I’ve neither done or said anything that would indicate my undecidedness is “clearly not reality.” Nothing.

    What’s worse is, the constant pummeling of this, all by men who support Obama, in a case when we’re supposed to be saying we’re beyond voting based on race or gender or any other identifying trait, in the absence of any evidence – since there isn’t any – to support that assertion can only mean one thing:

    You all think I’d vote based on my gender.

    Now – if you want to ask me, will you vote on your gender? Or race for that matter, just ask that. But also ask yourself, would you believe me anyway?

    You place women in a lose lose – we can’t vote for Hillary because if we weren’t voting on gender well then of course we’d vote for Obama.

    But if we DO vote for Hillary based on gender, then we must not know enough about Obama or care enough or I don’t even know what you are saying to people who really support Clinton – other than beating up on them.

    You want substance about who will make a good leader?

    None of this is about that.

  10. 10 tim russo on February 27th, 2008 12:50 pm

    never said any of that. just sayin i luv ya.

  11. 11 Jill Miller Zimon on February 27th, 2008 12:54 pm

    LOL at self – sigh – ok, Tim. lol

    I’ll delete this comment then? (of course I won’t)

    “because you’re claiming this undecided mantle, and it’s clearly not reality.”

    I will be so happy when the primary is over.

  12. 12 Eric on February 27th, 2008 1:19 pm

    Remember what momma said:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=rVaw8WivNr8

  13. 13 Jill Miller Zimon on February 28th, 2008 8:52 am

    Didn’t he make that for some awful movie? He never did well as an actor – and I used to confuse him on screen with Joe Pesci, who is a MUCH better actor.

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