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	<title>Comments on: Eric Vessels of Plunderbund bandies with the BBC on Obama, Clinton, debate</title>
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	<description>&#34;She is very powerful, so be nice to her.&#34; Chancellor, Ohio Board of Regents, Eric Fingerhut</description>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t he make that for some awful movie?  He never did well as an actor - and I used to confuse him on screen with Joe Pesci, who is a MUCH better actor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t he make that for some awful movie?  He never did well as an actor &#8211; and I used to confuse him on screen with Joe Pesci, who is a MUCH better actor.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember what momma said:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rVaw8WivNr8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember what momma said:</p>
<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=rVaw8WivNr8" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=rVaw8WivNr8</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/27/eric-vessels-of-plunderbund-bandies-with-the-bbc-on-obama-clinton-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-52816</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL at self - sigh - ok, Tim. lol

I&#039;ll delete this comment then? (of course I won&#039;t)

&quot;because you’re claiming this undecided mantle, and it’s clearly not reality.&quot;

I will be so happy when the primary is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL at self &#8211; sigh &#8211; ok, Tim. lol</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll delete this comment then? (of course I won&#8217;t)</p>
<p>&#8220;because you’re claiming this undecided mantle, and it’s clearly not reality.&#8221;</p>
<p>I will be so happy when the primary is over.</p>
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		<title>By: tim russo</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim russo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>never said any of that.  just sayin i luv ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>never said any of that.  just sayin i luv ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/27/eric-vessels-of-plunderbund-bandies-with-the-bbc-on-obama-clinton-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-52814</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim - nothing to be sorry about. I just don&#039;t know why the chiding keeps bubbling up.  I&#039;ve neither done or said anything that would indicate my undecidedness is &quot;clearly not reality.&quot;  Nothing.

What&#039;s worse is, the constant pummeling of this, all by men who support Obama, in a case when we&#039;re supposed to be saying we&#039;re beyond voting based on race or gender or any other identifying trait, in the absence of any evidence - since there isn&#039;t any - to support that assertion can only mean one thing:

You all think I&#039;d vote based on my gender.

Now - if you want to ask me, will you vote on your gender?  Or race for that matter, just ask that.  But also ask yourself, would you believe me anyway?

You place women in a lose lose - we can&#039;t vote for Hillary because if we weren&#039;t voting on gender well then of course we&#039;d vote for Obama.

But if we DO vote for Hillary based on gender, then we must not know enough about Obama or care enough or I don&#039;t even know what you are saying to people who really support Clinton - other than beating up on them.

You want substance about who will make a good leader?

None of this is about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8211; nothing to be sorry about. I just don&#8217;t know why the chiding keeps bubbling up.  I&#8217;ve neither done or said anything that would indicate my undecidedness is &#8220;clearly not reality.&#8221;  Nothing.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s worse is, the constant pummeling of this, all by men who support Obama, in a case when we&#8217;re supposed to be saying we&#8217;re beyond voting based on race or gender or any other identifying trait, in the absence of any evidence &#8211; since there isn&#8217;t any &#8211; to support that assertion can only mean one thing:</p>
<p>You all think I&#8217;d vote based on my gender.</p>
<p>Now &#8211; if you want to ask me, will you vote on your gender?  Or race for that matter, just ask that.  But also ask yourself, would you believe me anyway?</p>
<p>You place women in a lose lose &#8211; we can&#8217;t vote for Hillary because if we weren&#8217;t voting on gender well then of course we&#8217;d vote for Obama.</p>
<p>But if we DO vote for Hillary based on gender, then we must not know enough about Obama or care enough or I don&#8217;t even know what you are saying to people who really support Clinton &#8211; other than beating up on them.</p>
<p>You want substance about who will make a good leader?</p>
<p>None of this is about that.</p>
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		<title>By: tim russo</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim russo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry jill.  still luv ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry jill.  still luv ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/27/eric-vessels-of-plunderbund-bandies-with-the-bbc-on-obama-clinton-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-52807</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And let me add for the record, you can&#039;t stand that you can put out universe-sized reams of information into cyberspace and someone still might not want YOUR candidate - in ANY race, not just this one.

Interestingly, for being such big supporters of Obama, maybe it&#039;s that he can do things you can&#039;t - which is to see other people&#039;s perspectives and points of view, even if he doesn&#039;t see something the same way.  I guess we want in others, esp. our leaders, those things we ourselves lack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And let me add for the record, you can&#8217;t stand that you can put out universe-sized reams of information into cyberspace and someone still might not want YOUR candidate &#8211; in ANY race, not just this one.</p>
<p>Interestingly, for being such big supporters of Obama, maybe it&#8217;s that he can do things you can&#8217;t &#8211; which is to see other people&#8217;s perspectives and points of view, even if he doesn&#8217;t see something the same way.  I guess we want in others, esp. our leaders, those things we ourselves lack.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/27/eric-vessels-of-plunderbund-bandies-with-the-bbc-on-obama-clinton-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-52806</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russo - don&#039;t make me swear - my blog is already like a PG-13.

Point to your evidence that what you call &quot;my claim&quot; isn&#039;t reality. 

In this case, you are all acting as badly as Tom and Dave when I was blogging on Wide Open and they and the conservative commenters would try to bash me until I would get off the fence about something.

What is with this disrespect for someone being undecided and freaking HONEST about that?  

Seriously. You guys are having trouble with the fact that some people can&#039;t make a decision - maybe because they don&#039;t like either of their choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russo &#8211; don&#8217;t make me swear &#8211; my blog is already like a PG-13.</p>
<p>Point to your evidence that what you call &#8220;my claim&#8221; isn&#8217;t reality. </p>
<p>In this case, you are all acting as badly as Tom and Dave when I was blogging on Wide Open and they and the conservative commenters would try to bash me until I would get off the fence about something.</p>
<p>What is with this disrespect for someone being undecided and freaking HONEST about that?  </p>
<p>Seriously. You guys are having trouble with the fact that some people can&#8217;t make a decision &#8211; maybe because they don&#8217;t like either of their choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gooooood Morning London!  

London?

Hello?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gooooood Morning London!  </p>
<p>London?</p>
<p>Hello?</p>
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		<title>By: tim russo</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim russo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because you&#039;re claiming this undecided mantle, and it&#039;s clearly not reality.  besides, being on the BBC ain&#039;t all that.  SkyNews is a better get.  no one listens at 3.30 am anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because you&#8217;re claiming this undecided mantle, and it&#8217;s clearly not reality.  besides, being on the BBC ain&#8217;t all that.  SkyNews is a better get.  no one listens at 3.30 am anyway.</p>
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