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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/27/post-debate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-52989</link>
		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to add this link; I admit I&#039;m not sure where it comes from for sure but it&#039;s a very thoughtful podcast about what was missing in the Cleveland debate. 
Phillip Morris is (I think) the person whose thoughts are on it. http://www.audio-newsstand.com/pod/eca3addf-89f2-4168-b33f-6729a064de37.mp3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to add this link; I admit I&#8217;m not sure where it comes from for sure but it&#8217;s a very thoughtful podcast about what was missing in the Cleveland debate.<br />
Phillip Morris is (I think) the person whose thoughts are on it. <a href="http://www.audio-newsstand.com/pod/eca3addf-89f2-4168-b33f-6729a064de37.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.audio-newsstand.com/pod/eca3addf-89f2-4168-b33f-6729a064de37.mp3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jack Williamson</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/27/post-debate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-52954</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Jack Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, now I have a better idea of what you mean.    You feel that Russert and Williams tried to make the debate as confrontational between the two candidates as they possibly could.  Yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, now I have a better idea of what you mean.    You feel that Russert and Williams tried to make the debate as confrontational between the two candidates as they possibly could.  Yes?</p>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you still have five days to decide lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you still have five days to decide lol</p>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/27/post-debate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-52950</link>
		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill from browsing the web, I think more of the posters seem to agree with you. And I do hear you; if we agreed all the time it would be boring no? lol. I didn&#039;t realize until I watched the debate that I really dislike the soft approach of past moderators. I agree totally that the news media shapes what we hear and that sucks. But that isn&#039;t going to change no matter if it&#039;s a seemingly soft approach to questioning or badgering Nat&#039;l Enquirer style or hard balling (which is what I saw happen at our debate). I suppose if I was a staunch Clinton supporter I might have been pissed on a different level. I was surprised that Brian Williams didn&#039;t participate more. But I guess it&#039;s all those years on the East Coast, I just liked Russert&#039;s style. It said to me &#039;don&#039;t give us any BS, don&#039;t try to get off topic, this is the question now answer it.&#039;  One thing you and I agree on totally is the lack of additonal questions. 

But the tone got set somewhat by Clinton who did the silly attack on Obama&#039;s literature. She went after character so that had to be part of the questioning I guess.  I still really believe it was the best debate of the year. So yeah, I guess we differ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill from browsing the web, I think more of the posters seem to agree with you. And I do hear you; if we agreed all the time it would be boring no? lol. I didn&#8217;t realize until I watched the debate that I really dislike the soft approach of past moderators. I agree totally that the news media shapes what we hear and that sucks. But that isn&#8217;t going to change no matter if it&#8217;s a seemingly soft approach to questioning or badgering Nat&#8217;l Enquirer style or hard balling (which is what I saw happen at our debate). I suppose if I was a staunch Clinton supporter I might have been pissed on a different level. I was surprised that Brian Williams didn&#8217;t participate more. But I guess it&#8217;s all those years on the East Coast, I just liked Russert&#8217;s style. It said to me &#8216;don&#8217;t give us any BS, don&#8217;t try to get off topic, this is the question now answer it.&#8217;  One thing you and I agree on totally is the lack of additonal questions. </p>
<p>But the tone got set somewhat by Clinton who did the silly attack on Obama&#8217;s literature. She went after character so that had to be part of the questioning I guess.  I still really believe it was the best debate of the year. So yeah, I guess we differ!</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - that is a comment that perfectly captures how many people feel - although not everyone, right Carole? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; that is a comment that perfectly captures how many people feel &#8211; although not everyone, right Carole? <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/02/27/post-debate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-52932</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel - nice to see you. :)  I hope you are doing well.

I&#039;m going to push back here a bit - I agree about new territory and that the moderators needed to keep us from listening to 90 mins of the same five sentences.

HOWEVER, please think about this and why some of us feel that the moderators are culpable for the very situation they then had to control:

they set the whole thing up.  They KNOW the news.  They KNOW what&#039;s in the blogs and the rumor mills and on the ground.

They knew EXACTLY what they were doing - it&#039;s like revving up dogs at a dog fight or prepping the bulls for the bullfight.  Come on.

And so - if they wanted to have a different kind of debate, they could have - around any issue.

So - they are not faultless at all, imo.

What do you think about that view?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel &#8211; nice to see you. <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I hope you are doing well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to push back here a bit &#8211; I agree about new territory and that the moderators needed to keep us from listening to 90 mins of the same five sentences.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, please think about this and why some of us feel that the moderators are culpable for the very situation they then had to control:</p>
<p>they set the whole thing up.  They KNOW the news.  They KNOW what&#8217;s in the blogs and the rumor mills and on the ground.</p>
<p>They knew EXACTLY what they were doing &#8211; it&#8217;s like revving up dogs at a dog fight or prepping the bulls for the bullfight.  Come on.</p>
<p>And so &#8211; if they wanted to have a different kind of debate, they could have &#8211; around any issue.</p>
<p>So &#8211; they are not faultless at all, imo.</p>
<p>What do you think about that view?</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben - That last comment by me was for you too re: the not liking Russert. 

But what&#039;s really interesting is what you all didn&#039;t get to see - this total Abbott and Costello thing that Brian Williams and Russert did before the show began.  It&#039;s like Jekyll and Hyde for Russert - very, very odd transformation.  That&#039;s not to say that many news people aren&#039;t like that - I think I&#039;m a bit like that - different when I&#039;m doing my journalism thing than even when I&#039;m blogging or in person. 

But with Russert, the transformation was really creepy, to be honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben &#8211; That last comment by me was for you too re: the not liking Russert. </p>
<p>But what&#8217;s really interesting is what you all didn&#8217;t get to see &#8211; this total Abbott and Costello thing that Brian Williams and Russert did before the show began.  It&#8217;s like Jekyll and Hyde for Russert &#8211; very, very odd transformation.  That&#8217;s not to say that many news people aren&#8217;t like that &#8211; I think I&#8217;m a bit like that &#8211; different when I&#8217;m doing my journalism thing than even when I&#8217;m blogging or in person. </p>
<p>But with Russert, the transformation was really creepy, to be honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Carole - you surprise me once in a while. I think that&#039;s good though. Makes sure I&#039;m reading when you write. ;)

Well, I really really did NOT like Russert&#039;s style. But part of what I&#039;m learning in these days after the debate, in talking to others, esp. those who watched it at home is that being in the audience, you really really hear things differently.  I&#039;ll be writing more about that in a long review post.

Thanks very much Carole.

And I&#039;m still undecided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Carole &#8211; you surprise me once in a while. I think that&#8217;s good though. Makes sure I&#8217;m reading when you write. <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well, I really really did NOT like Russert&#8217;s style. But part of what I&#8217;m learning in these days after the debate, in talking to others, esp. those who watched it at home is that being in the audience, you really really hear things differently.  I&#8217;ll be writing more about that in a long review post.</p>
<p>Thanks very much Carole.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m still undecided.</p>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree John, it would have been great to have some issues that affect cities like jobs and foreclosures... that part surprised me. I still say they kept the discussion going and we got more in depth answers than previously; well, from Obama anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree John, it would have been great to have some issues that affect cities like jobs and foreclosures&#8230; that part surprised me. I still say they kept the discussion going and we got more in depth answers than previously; well, from Obama anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: John Michael Spinelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Michael Spinelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On point with concerns over the herd-style questioning that Russert has honed to a fine art, one comment received on one of my OhioNews Bureau posts at ePluribus Media is in line with those above:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I watched the debate and was more disappointed with Russert and Williams as moderators than anything that the candidates had to say. There were so many important issues they could have hit upon instead of playing the same old sort of &quot;gotcha&quot; type journalism that Russert has perfected. I hope the public will wake up some day and decide we should not let the press be choosing our elected officials for us. The press, with the exception of a few outstanding organizations like McClatchy and Christian Science Monitor, have failed this country by choosing to ignore their role to inform the citizens and act as a check against the abuse of power of the government.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On point with concerns over the herd-style questioning that Russert has honed to a fine art, one comment received on one of my OhioNews Bureau posts at ePluribus Media is in line with those above:</p>
<blockquote><p>I watched the debate and was more disappointed with Russert and Williams as moderators than anything that the candidates had to say. There were so many important issues they could have hit upon instead of playing the same old sort of &#8220;gotcha&#8221; type journalism that Russert has perfected. I hope the public will wake up some day and decide we should not let the press be choosing our elected officials for us. The press, with the exception of a few outstanding organizations like McClatchy and Christian Science Monitor, have failed this country by choosing to ignore their role to inform the citizens and act as a check against the abuse of power of the government.</p></blockquote>
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