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UPDATE: My post here expresses disappointment related to the nature of the rumors and how that impacts women getting into politics. I’ve not written about the allegations themselves, whether they’re true and what AG Marc Dann’s role in them is or was if anything. My concern is what situations like this do to scare off women from working in politics.
If you want to read more about what’s going on in particularly detailed and legally relevant ways, check out Pho.
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The hostile environment for women that alledgedly exists and/or existed.
What’s going on? You can catch up here, here, here or here, for starters.
This kind of swirling dervish of a story is exactly the kind of rumor-collector that makes it so hard to recruit women into politics. I’ve been working my a$$ off trying to write about getting women into the political pipeline. About giving credit to Jennifer Brunner and Mary Taylor, to Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Marcy Kaptur.
But somehow these allegations arise – at their least offensive, from misunderstandings, and at their most heinous – from reality.
Even Bill Kristol today said on NPR that he thinks the media has treated Hillary horribly and unfairly. Kristol said that.
Are people that afraid to have women even run, let alone win?
Whatever. It’s late and I’m just terribly disappointed. I wasn’t in love with Marc Dann to begin with, but I did contribute to his campaign at the last minute – literally. I did not want Betty Montgomery back in.
I’m still not regretting that decision, but to the extent that any of what we are reading is true, I am, at the very least, very disappointed. And, frankly, angry.
By Jill Miller Zimon at 10:22 pm April 8th, 2008 in Civil Rights, Crime, Culture, Government, Law, Ohio, Politics, Scandal, Women
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Id be disapointed in Dann too. It isnt just this one thing – it is a constant stream of self inflicted wounds.
Let’s not determine guilt here so fast. You lefty liberal types are always concerned about civil rights, freedom and due process. Don’t assume that all of this is true until it is established. Regardless of whether you support Dann, or his policies, you must recognize that he and his administration is entitled to a full and fair review before you jump to disappointment and guilt. He has taken on some very powerful and very angry corporate and other interests who would like nothing less than to see him hang.
Let’s be judicious and fair. That is what you are all supposed to stand for.
My sister, who attended Yale law with Hillary, then became a prosecutor who tried other attorneys for their licenses after they stole from clients, has pulled her Hillary sign, as has my next door neighbor, who’s also a (female) lawyer. Both say it’s all about the lying. Neither has put up signs for anybody else. Yet.
Out of the whole new crop of statewide officeholders, Marc Dann is the weakest link, and I hope he gets voted out.
Marc Dann often reminds me of all the reasons why I don’t trust Youngstown area politics, especially when it comes to choosing henchmen . . . er, I mean appointing staff . . ., and pushing the envelope on ethics.
Sleep with the dogs, wake up with the fleas.
This isn’t the first warning sign about Dann. He’s one of the most corrupt, inept, and intellectually dishonest politicians around. If you vote as a blind partisan (on both sides) all the time, you’re bound to find yourself supporting a hypocritical showboat like Dann. Hopefully this a lesson learned about supporting Democrats 110% of the time.
If I am not mistaken Dann’s idol was Elliot Spitzer? Interesting.
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Ben – the only difference I find, when lists are made about whose done worse stuff in office, Dann’s stuff is all judgement related and probably arrogance-driven but his pursuit of certain interests on behalf of Ohioans is in line with what most Dems and 53% of Ohioans who elected him seem to want – maybe even more.
When you look back and Petro or Montgomery, people couldn’t even name who they were or what the AG did.
So – there’s a real division here between how he performs the job itself and how he performs as a person.
I am NOT defending that, I’m just saying, Petro and Montgomery sure didn’t do so much for Ohioans – a lot of what’s happening now is cleaning up from their failure to act.
Anon – I’ve seen your email. Thanks for commenting. I hope you return. And you are probably more right than wrong.
MrEd – did you mean for that comment to be in this thread?
Brian, you wrote, “If you vote as a blind partisan (on both sides) all the time, you’re bound to find yourself supporting a hypocritical showboat like Dann. Hopefully this a lesson learned about supporting Democrats 110% of the time.”
I don’t know if you mean me or not but if you did, I don’t vote with the Dems 110% but since I started to blog, I’ve become far more aware of why people do that and why I might choose to, as opposed to ignoring party.
What is that reason? That I don’t like one party rule – so I’m glad that there’s blue and red in the different branches – though the Sup Crt needs some blue, obviously.
But on the other side, I vote for Dems more than GOP candidates because I see how not having the majority affects what happens in the state legislature. Now, for offices like AG, maybe you’d think it’s not the same. But then there’s apportionment.
So – it’s just not as simple as you are suggesting, imo.
Joe – snark coming: how original of you!
Jill, the AG doesn’t figure into the apportionment equation. From the executive branch: Governor, Auditor, and Secretary of State.
In 2010, don’t base a vote on Dann because it will help Democrats in the apportionment process, because it won’t make a difference.
Thanks Daniel – I do understand that. My reference was more in regard to why it is that people vote straight ticket – because there is an interest in how the government is balanced or how we can attempt to re-distribute it.
Have you ever seen any studies on the prevalence of straight ticket voting? Especially in judicial races – that would be interesting I think.
I’d be surprised if there were a greater tendency to vote straight ticket in judicial races. Judicial races are decided largely by name recognition. Many judges retire mid-term to allow a party to appoint a replacement and thus cement the name recognition of that replacement when the next election comes up for that seat.
In some parts of the state, where there’s been a history of one name being associated with judicial races, there’s a rush to find people with that same surname to round out the slate, and both parties will do it. I remember one Cuyahoga County race that was Gallagher against Gallagher.
I think the legislative races are more prone to strictly partisan voting.
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