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	<title>Comments on: From ODB: Rosemary Palmer (D) to Replace Cotronakis in OH Sen. 24 race</title>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diamanits will become a very well known name. He is known throughout the business community already and being Greek Orthodox, he has a strong base already intact in the four churches in Cleveland. 90% of the families that attend those churches live in the district. 

I am not worried about that at all, his vision is strong, he has fresh and worthy vision that will captivate everyone. He is at heart a leader. George started his first business at the age of 20, he is a work horse, never says never and goes the extra mile to make sure what he sets out to accomplish gets done. In fact, he opened a restaurant at 20, but could not serve alcohol as he was to young to get a liquor license! He is a true NE Ohioan in that regard, he rolls up his sleeves and gets to work. He is not interested in being a politician, he is interested in NE Ohio being all that it can be. He is interested in his children having a solid economy to raise their own children on one day. He is young, energetic and I have no doubt that once we get him introduced to the public he will be instantly likable. 

Palmer had name recognition during the primary race for the congressional seat, yet she still did not do well.

Diamantis is in no way afraid to lay out his goals and vision. He is eager for the challenge and eager to get his message heard.

It is always good to question those who want to lead us. However, time is ticking and Patton is, I am sure, loving every minute of it. 

If the past 8 years have taught us anything it is that name recognition and being an insider in no way translates into being effective or a leader. We are looking at perhaps a modern day Populist movement and it is thrilling and exciting to see what can happen in government when real people with real life and business experience rise up to the call of civil service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diamanits will become a very well known name. He is known throughout the business community already and being Greek Orthodox, he has a strong base already intact in the four churches in Cleveland. 90% of the families that attend those churches live in the district. </p>
<p>I am not worried about that at all, his vision is strong, he has fresh and worthy vision that will captivate everyone. He is at heart a leader. George started his first business at the age of 20, he is a work horse, never says never and goes the extra mile to make sure what he sets out to accomplish gets done. In fact, he opened a restaurant at 20, but could not serve alcohol as he was to young to get a liquor license! He is a true NE Ohioan in that regard, he rolls up his sleeves and gets to work. He is not interested in being a politician, he is interested in NE Ohio being all that it can be. He is interested in his children having a solid economy to raise their own children on one day. He is young, energetic and I have no doubt that once we get him introduced to the public he will be instantly likable. </p>
<p>Palmer had name recognition during the primary race for the congressional seat, yet she still did not do well.</p>
<p>Diamantis is in no way afraid to lay out his goals and vision. He is eager for the challenge and eager to get his message heard.</p>
<p>It is always good to question those who want to lead us. However, time is ticking and Patton is, I am sure, loving every minute of it. </p>
<p>If the past 8 years have taught us anything it is that name recognition and being an insider in no way translates into being effective or a leader. We are looking at perhaps a modern day Populist movement and it is thrilling and exciting to see what can happen in government when real people with real life and business experience rise up to the call of civil service.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/04/22/from-odb-rosemary-palmer-d-to-replace-cotronakis-in-oh-sen-24-race/comment-page-1/#comment-61474</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane - what about name recognition? Between your candidate and Palmer, even if we accept that Palmer isn&#039;t as well-known as Patton, isn&#039;t your candidate even less well-known than Palmer? This is my impression - I&#039;m not speaking for anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane &#8211; what about name recognition? Between your candidate and Palmer, even if we accept that Palmer isn&#8217;t as well-known as Patton, isn&#8217;t your candidate even less well-known than Palmer? This is my impression &#8211; I&#8217;m not speaking for anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a consultant to the Diamantis campaign. Having said that, I do not believe that Patton is unbeatable. Never say never. However, we cannot even begin to broach him in a manner that can allow a democrat to defeat him as long as we are infighting. Rosemary should know that Tom is going to take her to court. It is inevidable. The right thing to do in my opinion, is for her to allow Diamantis to get moving with the campaign, knowing there are no road blocks for Tom to throw in our way and lets get this going.

Tom&#039;s position on predetory check cashing services should have been blasting on every news outlet and been discussed on every blog site by now. Instead, he is relaxing, getting a free pass and ticking off the calendar as the democrats do what we are doing. 

George is ready to go. We have a strong support system in, we can raise the funds in a short amount of time and we have the energy to give this a really good run. But we cannot take these days back that we are wasting.

As democrats, let us do what is right for the party, not self-promotion, and let us do what the democrats should be doing in 08, taking control of every available seat. Both nationally and locally.

I would hope Rosemary feels the same and can understand that Tom will come at her with all he has, just to hunker himself even further into a good position. He can certainly win if no one else is eve on the ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a consultant to the Diamantis campaign. Having said that, I do not believe that Patton is unbeatable. Never say never. However, we cannot even begin to broach him in a manner that can allow a democrat to defeat him as long as we are infighting. Rosemary should know that Tom is going to take her to court. It is inevidable. The right thing to do in my opinion, is for her to allow Diamantis to get moving with the campaign, knowing there are no road blocks for Tom to throw in our way and lets get this going.</p>
<p>Tom&#8217;s position on predetory check cashing services should have been blasting on every news outlet and been discussed on every blog site by now. Instead, he is relaxing, getting a free pass and ticking off the calendar as the democrats do what we are doing. </p>
<p>George is ready to go. We have a strong support system in, we can raise the funds in a short amount of time and we have the energy to give this a really good run. But we cannot take these days back that we are wasting.</p>
<p>As democrats, let us do what is right for the party, not self-promotion, and let us do what the democrats should be doing in 08, taking control of every available seat. Both nationally and locally.</p>
<p>I would hope Rosemary feels the same and can understand that Tom will come at her with all he has, just to hunker himself even further into a good position. He can certainly win if no one else is eve on the ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/04/22/from-odb-rosemary-palmer-d-to-replace-cotronakis-in-oh-sen-24-race/comment-page-1/#comment-61457</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, and good luck. I hate to say it, but I&#039;m very concerned that Patton won&#039;t be able to be beaten this go round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, and good luck. I hate to say it, but I&#8217;m very concerned that Patton won&#8217;t be able to be beaten this go round.</p>
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		<title>By: BayVillage</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/04/22/from-odb-rosemary-palmer-d-to-replace-cotronakis-in-oh-sen-24-race/comment-page-1/#comment-61456</link>
		<dc:creator>BayVillage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not employed by any campaign.  I am not working at anyone&#039;s direction but my own.  I know Rosemary and George.  I&#039;ve known George much longer and know him to be a good man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not employed by any campaign.  I am not working at anyone&#8217;s direction but my own.  I know Rosemary and George.  I&#8217;ve known George much longer and know him to be a good man.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/04/22/from-odb-rosemary-palmer-d-to-replace-cotronakis-in-oh-sen-24-race/comment-page-1/#comment-61452</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your comment - are you also saying that you are not employed by or otherwise volunteering for any of the candidates? That&#039;s really the concern I wanted addressed, but your other info is helpful too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your comment &#8211; are you also saying that you are not employed by or otherwise volunteering for any of the candidates? That&#8217;s really the concern I wanted addressed, but your other info is helpful too.</p>
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		<title>By: BayVillage</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/04/22/from-odb-rosemary-palmer-d-to-replace-cotronakis-in-oh-sen-24-race/comment-page-1/#comment-61451</link>
		<dc:creator>BayVillage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may surprise you but I live in Bay Village.  Where have I been these past weeks?? I have been working to try to find a way to keep Cotronakis in the race. You realize he has not withdrawn, right?  I speak now as a response to the claim that Palmer will be replacing Cotronakis as if it was a done deal.  It is not.  Not by a long shot.  IF Cotronakis does withdraw, I prefer George Diamantis.  He is a commercial appraiser, very smart and likeable and he is a hard worker. He also is eligible to be the State Senator for the 24th District having been a resident in North Olmsted for at least the required amount of time.  I am not throwing stones at Rosemary.  She would make a fine candidate, it is just that she is not eligible to run for this seat.  If the Ohio Secretary of State issues a declaration that she is eligible then great, we have 2 good replacement candidates (if we need one).  Why would we as Democrats voluntarily walk into a legal disaster that would at the very least lead to a court challenge and based on the evidence I found by searching the internet for just 10 minutes would lead to Rosemary Palmer being declared ineligible and stricken from the ballot.  Patton would be able to time his court challenge to cause the most damage to the Democrats.  This is nothing personal against you, or Rosemary or anyone.  It is a statement of fact that she voted in Cleveland as a Cleveland resident in November of 2007 and probably in March of 2008.  That is strong evidence that she was a resident of Cleveland at that time and thus is not eligible to run for the 24th State Senate seat.  That is my only point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may surprise you but I live in Bay Village.  Where have I been these past weeks?? I have been working to try to find a way to keep Cotronakis in the race. You realize he has not withdrawn, right?  I speak now as a response to the claim that Palmer will be replacing Cotronakis as if it was a done deal.  It is not.  Not by a long shot.  IF Cotronakis does withdraw, I prefer George Diamantis.  He is a commercial appraiser, very smart and likeable and he is a hard worker. He also is eligible to be the State Senator for the 24th District having been a resident in North Olmsted for at least the required amount of time.  I am not throwing stones at Rosemary.  She would make a fine candidate, it is just that she is not eligible to run for this seat.  If the Ohio Secretary of State issues a declaration that she is eligible then great, we have 2 good replacement candidates (if we need one).  Why would we as Democrats voluntarily walk into a legal disaster that would at the very least lead to a court challenge and based on the evidence I found by searching the internet for just 10 minutes would lead to Rosemary Palmer being declared ineligible and stricken from the ballot.  Patton would be able to time his court challenge to cause the most damage to the Democrats.  This is nothing personal against you, or Rosemary or anyone.  It is a statement of fact that she voted in Cleveland as a Cleveland resident in November of 2007 and probably in March of 2008.  That is strong evidence that she was a resident of Cleveland at that time and thus is not eligible to run for the 24th State Senate seat.  That is my only point.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/04/22/from-odb-rosemary-palmer-d-to-replace-cotronakis-in-oh-sen-24-race/comment-page-1/#comment-61448</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You feel trampled? Wow - you have not been around the blogs much have you?

How can you be a supporter of someone for a race for which they&#039;re not on the ballot? Why didn&#039;t you have him get in before?

Your support seems awfully fair weather.

Nothing&#039;s been misprinted - the software works just fine.

You seem to say you in the Diamantis camp - then state your role, please.  Again, veiling yourself will only decrease credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You feel trampled? Wow &#8211; you have not been around the blogs much have you?</p>
<p>How can you be a supporter of someone for a race for which they&#8217;re not on the ballot? Why didn&#8217;t you have him get in before?</p>
<p>Your support seems awfully fair weather.</p>
<p>Nothing&#8217;s been misprinted &#8211; the software works just fine.</p>
<p>You seem to say you in the Diamantis camp &#8211; then state your role, please.  Again, veiling yourself will only decrease credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing I said in my blog that was not said by those supporting Rosemary. It was all fact, she came in 6th in the congressional race after raising the second or third amount of money. Therefore her fund raising did not garner a victory. That is public record. There are issues with her residency, that is public record. She voted in March as a resident outside of the 24th district. 

There is no bias in stating fact. Nor is there anything wrong with stating another fact that Rosemary has not in fact garnered the appointment. There has not been a vote. 

It is also fact that her supporters are on the blogs stating it as fact. If they are going to blog things that are untrue, the Diamantis camp has every right to set the record straight. She is not the appointed nominee. If she should become it, then she can blog that she is in fact the chosen candidate. Until then, her supporters should not jump the gun.

Yes I am a Diamantis supporter. This is a blog site, not a voter registration site. I live in Cleveland and have for over 17 years. However, my residency is not the issue, as I am not running for office.

I would hate to think that my constitutional rights to speak freely, and state fact are not being trampled on  here because I am not a Palmer supporter. That would destroy credibility. Not the correction of misprinted facts on your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing I said in my blog that was not said by those supporting Rosemary. It was all fact, she came in 6th in the congressional race after raising the second or third amount of money. Therefore her fund raising did not garner a victory. That is public record. There are issues with her residency, that is public record. She voted in March as a resident outside of the 24th district. </p>
<p>There is no bias in stating fact. Nor is there anything wrong with stating another fact that Rosemary has not in fact garnered the appointment. There has not been a vote. </p>
<p>It is also fact that her supporters are on the blogs stating it as fact. If they are going to blog things that are untrue, the Diamantis camp has every right to set the record straight. She is not the appointed nominee. If she should become it, then she can blog that she is in fact the chosen candidate. Until then, her supporters should not jump the gun.</p>
<p>Yes I am a Diamantis supporter. This is a blog site, not a voter registration site. I live in Cleveland and have for over 17 years. However, my residency is not the issue, as I am not running for office.</p>
<p>I would hate to think that my constitutional rights to speak freely, and state fact are not being trampled on  here because I am not a Palmer supporter. That would destroy credibility. Not the correction of misprinted facts on your site.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane and Bay Village - please remember that I have your email addresses and it&#039;s extremely easy to google and learn who you are. I just did it yesterday with another commenter.

Why getting so active now that Palmer shows interest and others show interest in her? Where were you all these past weeks, lobbying for your guy?

Where do you live - that&#039;s to both of you (and remember, it&#039;s not hard to verify)

If you are working with or otherwise volunteering or connected to candidates, make it known and reveal your bias.

Otherwise, your credibility and the reputation of the people you support will suffer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane and Bay Village &#8211; please remember that I have your email addresses and it&#8217;s extremely easy to google and learn who you are. I just did it yesterday with another commenter.</p>
<p>Why getting so active now that Palmer shows interest and others show interest in her? Where were you all these past weeks, lobbying for your guy?</p>
<p>Where do you live &#8211; that&#8217;s to both of you (and remember, it&#8217;s not hard to verify)</p>
<p>If you are working with or otherwise volunteering or connected to candidates, make it known and reveal your bias.</p>
<p>Otherwise, your credibility and the reputation of the people you support will suffer.</p>
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