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	<title>Comments on: Last Edition: The Daily Dann, 5/14/08</title>
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		<title>By: Ohio House Districts 24 &#38; 18 show politics for boys' club it continues to be &#124; Writes Like She Talks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohio House Districts 24 &#38; 18 show politics for boys' club it continues to be &#124; Writes Like She Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the past ODP-endorsed candidates like the two who immediately come to mind, Matthew Barrett and Marc Dann, not to mention how Capri Cafaro got to where she is today (appointed to fill Marc Dann&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the past ODP-endorsed candidates like the two who immediately come to mind, Matthew Barrett and Marc Dann, not to mention how Capri Cafaro got to where she is today (appointed to fill Marc Dann&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/05/14/last-edition-the-daily-dann-51408/comment-page-1/#comment-73627</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get the difference between reporting and linking. I was referring more to standing neck-deep in the scandal from day one, then calling us &quot;sensationalistic&quot; when we step into the same swamp. seems like trying to have it both ways, if not outright disingenuousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the difference between reporting and linking. I was referring more to standing neck-deep in the scandal from day one, then calling us &#8220;sensationalistic&#8221; when we step into the same swamp. seems like trying to have it both ways, if not outright disingenuousness.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/05/14/last-edition-the-daily-dann-51408/comment-page-1/#comment-73448</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Frank:

1. &quot;you’ll have to excuse my lack of empathy, the “mess” is entirely his own making, and he’s hardly the only one who will pay some kind of price.&quot;

Absolutely agree with you. Didn&#039;t mean to suggest otherwise.

2. &quot;I can’t quite get my head around the difference between linking to scandal (daily, for weeks on end) and reporting on another element of it&quot;

That&#039;s a fair critique. Something that goes on pretty often in blogs - it&#039;s a good question.

I&#039;m not sure what the difference is - I do know that in my mind, if I link to something, it&#039;s often more about one or two things: either I don&#039;t have enough time to write more, I don&#039;t really feel it deserves more time, or it doesn&#039;t require more time.

Or - I&#039;m offering the link for people to go check out.  I&#039;m not promoting one way or the other.

Does that still make linking any different than reporting on an element of the thing to which you&#039;ve linked?

Well - you got me - it&#039;s a fine line, not everyone&#039;s line.  I&#039;d say a lot of it goes to intent, but from the perspective of impact, maybe you are right.  Will think about that.

Thanks for commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Frank:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;you’ll have to excuse my lack of empathy, the “mess” is entirely his own making, and he’s hardly the only one who will pay some kind of price.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely agree with you. Didn&#8217;t mean to suggest otherwise.</p>
<p>2. &#8220;I can’t quite get my head around the difference between linking to scandal (daily, for weeks on end) and reporting on another element of it&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a fair critique. Something that goes on pretty often in blogs &#8211; it&#8217;s a good question.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what the difference is &#8211; I do know that in my mind, if I link to something, it&#8217;s often more about one or two things: either I don&#8217;t have enough time to write more, I don&#8217;t really feel it deserves more time, or it doesn&#8217;t require more time.</p>
<p>Or &#8211; I&#8217;m offering the link for people to go check out.  I&#8217;m not promoting one way or the other.</p>
<p>Does that still make linking any different than reporting on an element of the thing to which you&#8217;ve linked?</p>
<p>Well &#8211; you got me &#8211; it&#8217;s a fine line, not everyone&#8217;s line.  I&#8217;d say a lot of it goes to intent, but from the perspective of impact, maybe you are right.  Will think about that.</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: James Renner</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/05/14/last-edition-the-daily-dann-51408/comment-page-1/#comment-73419</link>
		<dc:creator>James Renner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! I still think there&#039;s something up with Rattlesnake Island. If you don&#039;t believe me, John, I double dog dare you to take a raft out there. I think I saw Hoffa out there, sunbathing.

About this Dann thing: We all had our reservations. But I wanted to let this woman tell her story--because I think it speaks to a pattern--and because Jessica Utovich remains in hiding, and so we&#039;ve never gotten the &quot;how&quot; behind his machinations. In the end it was this sort of behavior that led to a hostile work environment. And it&#039;s hard to feel bad for a man who has now had two opportunities to appologize to Cindy Stankoski, but didn&#039;t. 

And I like your stuff too, Jill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! I still think there&#8217;s something up with Rattlesnake Island. If you don&#8217;t believe me, John, I double dog dare you to take a raft out there. I think I saw Hoffa out there, sunbathing.</p>
<p>About this Dann thing: We all had our reservations. But I wanted to let this woman tell her story&#8211;because I think it speaks to a pattern&#8211;and because Jessica Utovich remains in hiding, and so we&#8217;ve never gotten the &#8220;how&#8221; behind his machinations. In the end it was this sort of behavior that led to a hostile work environment. And it&#8217;s hard to feel bad for a man who has now had two opportunities to appologize to Cindy Stankoski, but didn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>And I like your stuff too, Jill.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ettorre</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ettorre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting points. Jim Renner, whom I always enjoy reading, can sometimes get a little over the top in his endless entusiasm for investigating everything (perhaps most famously in the case of investigating an entire Lake Erie island for old mob ties). And in this case, I would agree with Jill if the story was conceived and published after Dann stepped down. But in this case, it seemed mostly inspired by the fact that Dann was not only refusing to leave, but playing hardball with his accusers. Given that, it&#039;s almost impossible to feel any sympathy for Dann.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points. Jim Renner, whom I always enjoy reading, can sometimes get a little over the top in his endless entusiasm for investigating everything (perhaps most famously in the case of investigating an entire Lake Erie island for old mob ties). And in this case, I would agree with Jill if the story was conceived and published after Dann stepped down. But in this case, it seemed mostly inspired by the fact that Dann was not only refusing to leave, but playing hardball with his accusers. Given that, it&#8217;s almost impossible to feel any sympathy for Dann.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/05/14/last-edition-the-daily-dann-51408/comment-page-1/#comment-73349</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>piling on? absolutely. but you&#039;ll have to excuse my lack of empathy, the &quot;mess&quot; is entirely his own making, and he&#039;s hardly the only one who will pay some kind of price. more to the point though -- and this is not a jab, though it may sound like one -- I can&#039;t quite get my head around the difference between linking to scandal (daily, for weeks on end) and reporting on another element of it. motes and beams come to mind. but again, not trying to pick on you, just noting another way of looking at looking at (and one more because we&#039;re bloggers) looking at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>piling on? absolutely. but you&#8217;ll have to excuse my lack of empathy, the &#8220;mess&#8221; is entirely his own making, and he&#8217;s hardly the only one who will pay some kind of price. more to the point though &#8212; and this is not a jab, though it may sound like one &#8212; I can&#8217;t quite get my head around the difference between linking to scandal (daily, for weeks on end) and reporting on another element of it. motes and beams come to mind. but again, not trying to pick on you, just noting another way of looking at looking at (and one more because we&#8217;re bloggers) looking at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/05/14/last-edition-the-daily-dann-51408/comment-page-1/#comment-73344</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well - it hits me that way - esp. given the fact that there&#039;s no question the guy personally has got to be a mess right now. It feels like piling on, well, it felt like piling on to me - which to me rings of making a sensation.

But I agree - not everyone might read it that way.  Just describing it the way I read it - which I did do! so you got me there. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8211; it hits me that way &#8211; esp. given the fact that there&#8217;s no question the guy personally has got to be a mess right now. It feels like piling on, well, it felt like piling on to me &#8211; which to me rings of making a sensation.</p>
<p>But I agree &#8211; not everyone might read it that way.  Just describing it the way I read it &#8211; which I did do! so you got me there. <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Frank Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/05/14/last-edition-the-daily-dann-51408/comment-page-1/#comment-73342</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tawdry, sure, but &quot;sensationalistic&quot;? that&#039;s not very nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tawdry, sure, but &#8220;sensationalistic&#8221;? that&#8217;s not very nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/05/14/last-edition-the-daily-dann-51408/comment-page-1/#comment-73291</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 11:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Red.  I actually liked doing just the one round-up but you know, he&#039;s gone from the office.  There will be plenty to write I&#039;m sure about the investigation but frankly, I&#039;d rather focus on so many other things that I haven&#039;t been able to get to.

Plus there&#039;s the Stephanie Studebaker angle - let them work it out outside the glare of the blogs etc.  I have no interest in compounding his problems.  He&#039;s done what we wanted him to do and what he should have done in the first place.  Let&#039;s move on to the next challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Red.  I actually liked doing just the one round-up but you know, he&#8217;s gone from the office.  There will be plenty to write I&#8217;m sure about the investigation but frankly, I&#8217;d rather focus on so many other things that I haven&#8217;t been able to get to.</p>
<p>Plus there&#8217;s the Stephanie Studebaker angle &#8211; let them work it out outside the glare of the blogs etc.  I have no interest in compounding his problems.  He&#8217;s done what we wanted him to do and what he should have done in the first place.  Let&#8217;s move on to the next challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: redhorse</title>
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		<dc:creator>redhorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad.  I think there will be enough material for at least a few more DD&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad.  I think there will be enough material for at least a few more DD&#8217;s.</p>
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