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	<title>Comments on: I love blogs! AP&#8217;s Jim Kennedy, Robert Cox of Media Bloggers Assn. to meet</title>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck - thanks for sharing that.  I agree that it should be a two-way street - I think traditional media is so consumed with the fact that their profit margin will never be what it used to be that they are literally freaking out before our eyes and not in their best interest.  It&#039;s far from shaking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck &#8211; thanks for sharing that.  I agree that it should be a two-way street &#8211; I think traditional media is so consumed with the fact that their profit margin will never be what it used to be that they are literally freaking out before our eyes and not in their best interest.  It&#8217;s far from shaking out.</p>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; Open Letter to Robert Cox at MediaBloggers.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; Open Letter to Robert Cox at MediaBloggers.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (HT to Jill at WLST for the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Blumer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Blumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3, Well Jill, if he doesn&#039;t bring up the matters I mentioned, I will not have underestimated him.

I went there and signed up for member info when it becomes available, and sent Cox an e-mail with my concerns. I might post it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3, Well Jill, if he doesn&#8217;t bring up the matters I mentioned, I will not have underestimated him.</p>
<p>I went there and signed up for member info when it becomes available, and sent Cox an e-mail with my concerns. I might post it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Butcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I depend on traditional media to provide me with content to comment on and I try very hard to not only credit their work but to also steer readers to the original.  Without our support that news gathering capability will suffer and so will the American public.

This should be a two way street, mutual respect for work should be the rule in publishing.

As an odd aside, when Murdoch fired the WSJ editor I wrote a scathing post, the headline appeared on WSJ Online through Blogburst.  It was not my first attack on the Murdoch purchase of WSJ and Sitemeter has recorded their interest.  Off topic, but odd enough I thought is might interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I depend on traditional media to provide me with content to comment on and I try very hard to not only credit their work but to also steer readers to the original.  Without our support that news gathering capability will suffer and so will the American public.</p>
<p>This should be a two way street, mutual respect for work should be the rule in publishing.</p>
<p>As an odd aside, when Murdoch fired the WSJ editor I wrote a scathing post, the headline appeared on WSJ Online through Blogburst.  It was not my first attack on the Murdoch purchase of WSJ and Sitemeter has recorded their interest.  Off topic, but odd enough I thought is might interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve known of Robert Cox and MBA for at least three years. During the 2006 elections, I spoke to him about situations related to the MSM appropriating content from Jeff Coryell and others.  When LA authorities wouldn&#039;t accept certain credentials related to debate coverage, he advised.  He has been involved in countless similar situations and is a tireless advocate.

You underestimate him at your own risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve known of Robert Cox and MBA for at least three years. During the 2006 elections, I spoke to him about situations related to the MSM appropriating content from Jeff Coryell and others.  When LA authorities wouldn&#8217;t accept certain credentials related to debate coverage, he advised.  He has been involved in countless similar situations and is a tireless advocate.</p>
<p>You underestimate him at your own risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Blumer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Blumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill, I&#039;d be happier if I knew more about these guys.

I sense that they&#039;ll be too easily rolled.

I maintain that we have the right to save entire articles to our hard drives (AP doesn&#039;t), so that we can compare what they wrote about an event during, say, Hour 1 to what they wrote 12 hours later (meanwhile, Hour 1&#039;s report would have disappeared).

That is an essential element of monitoring what these guys do, because it reveals how their mindset changes original raw news stories. 

There&#039;s also the issue of AP or other media outlets flushing reports down the memory hole if subsequent events make them look like fools. Though google cache and archive.org make that a big difficult, they don&#039;t hang on to every iteration, and the news orgs can prevent Internet archiving from happening.

I doubt that MBA is even considering either of these or other related points.

These are among the points FreeRepublic wanted to make 10+ years ago before the LA Times made it clear that they were going to wear FR down financially if they didn&#039;t settle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill, I&#8217;d be happier if I knew more about these guys.</p>
<p>I sense that they&#8217;ll be too easily rolled.</p>
<p>I maintain that we have the right to save entire articles to our hard drives (AP doesn&#8217;t), so that we can compare what they wrote about an event during, say, Hour 1 to what they wrote 12 hours later (meanwhile, Hour 1&#8217;s report would have disappeared).</p>
<p>That is an essential element of monitoring what these guys do, because it reveals how their mindset changes original raw news stories. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the issue of AP or other media outlets flushing reports down the memory hole if subsequent events make them look like fools. Though google cache and archive.org make that a big difficult, they don&#8217;t hang on to every iteration, and the news orgs can prevent Internet archiving from happening.</p>
<p>I doubt that MBA is even considering either of these or other related points.</p>
<p>These are among the points FreeRepublic wanted to make 10+ years ago before the LA Times made it clear that they were going to wear FR down financially if they didn&#8217;t settle.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloggers Media Association?  Never heard of them.

I suppose they havent heard of me either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloggers Media Association?  Never heard of them.</p>
<p>I suppose they havent heard of me either.</p>
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