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I saw this predictable debate begin a few nights ago and immediately started to read up on it:

Wednesday night, from What About Our Daughters

Jack and Jill Politics: Ludacris “helps” Obama Pretend Like He’s Never Met Ludacris

And this, from Ohio’s own Dave of NixGuy, which, when you read the comments, could not be a better explanation of the damage Ludacris’ attention-getting slur of Hillary Clinton that put Barack Obama in the position of having to pretend like he’s never met Ludacris can do.  Sure, you can suggest that those commenters wouldn’t be voting for Obama anyway. But it’s the same problem with the New Yorker cover – is it really necessary? Is it the only way to make a point – and I’m not even sure what Ludacris’ point is – we know people think HRC was a b***** and we know that now, well, she’s going to and needs to find other ambitions that will help this country (and she will, I have no doubt).

Talk about people hating on Obama and loving to hate on him and spread and perpetuate the hate.

BlogHer posted Erika Alexander’s take, Stop the Silence on Sexism and it’s a good one too.

And finally, for now, Amie Newman’s piece on RHReality Check, Ludacris’ Lyrics: Misogyny, Racism and The Reality of America.

This list is far from exhaustive and I’d urge you to check out more blogs, especially by bloggers of color, men and women, to get a feel for how it’s going down.

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By Jill Miller Zimon at 8:47 am August 1st, 2008 in Barack Obama, Blogging, Campaigning, Culture, Elections, Marketing, Media, Music, Politics, Race, Sexism, Social Issues, WH2008, Women, Writing 

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4 Responses to “Mini-meta commentary on Ludacris’ lyrical political commentary”

  1. 1 joe on August 1st, 2008 9:44 am

    well the explanation for our differences of opinion is that you’re a connecticut girl from the north east who moved to pepper pike one of cleveland’s most exclusive suburbs (where not much diversity is embraced or practiced) and i’m a cleveland born and bred boy who grew up in the w25th and clark area my entire life. hence, my up close and personal understanding of the problems and your removed from the problem view of the problem. no problem with that. just different life experiences. this is a shot and beer town. rough and tumble. the majority here don’t agree with the wine sipping cheese eater type. nothing personal, just the way it is. i’m sure if i met you in person we’d find each other quite charming. no doubt about it.

  2. 2 Jill Miller Zimon on August 1st, 2008 9:50 am

    Joe – I don’t have time to respond and I make it habit not to talk about me etc. You have several facts wrong, you can read more about me under the “JMZ” tab at the top of this blog.

    Just reign in the slurs and personal attacks and stop assuming you know everything about anyone based on a one-dimensional communication device like the Internet.

  3. 3 joe on August 1st, 2008 10:38 am

    agreed, i’d enjoy getting to know more as time moves forward. excellent suggestion and does of constructive criticism.

  4. 4 Oengus on August 2nd, 2008 10:50 am

    I do not know the relationships that anyone else has, and most usually do not have that much impact unless there is structural obligation. It makes the assumption of weak mind.

    So for Obama he has no obvious obligations to this entertainer, the entertainer will not have any impact on the white house.

    The areas of concern are those that can influence the flow of capital, the laws and the economics of those laws.

    The biggest issue on the table today is financial, we are functioning, but we are accumulating dept and we are very very wasteful.

    The war, we need to step back the middle east needs something and its information, clear and objective, if they read our communications and look at our media we look like what?

    Phil Donahue once said, Our show is broken, within the first 10-15 minutes we reach a solution and then have to keep talking about it. Think about that America!

    It all about strong comprehension, if the solution is at hand it will be very detailed and multifaceted. What we need to do it think longer term and also be more risk adverse.

    All issue need to be addressed in sections and in cyclical models, those involved become owners and have full access to all information.

    If a group forms and has objection then those objection should be addressed, no in a public forum off the top of peoples heads, in writing and validity addressed objectively.

    The objection to Obama associating with Ludacris, with respects to tangible societal impact, I say zero. I would say also that if groups kept bringing up such matters then the accumulative rating of that groups issues of concern would also be low.

    We all have ten pounds of gray matter, if its wasted then the function of that would be what, it actually a mathematical function, that being the sum of the matter times the number of people involved. That’s wasted thought energy, I am seeing theory that is very high as a proportion in our society overall.

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