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		<title>By: The Wisdom of Choosing Joe Biden &#124; Writes Like She Talks</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Wisdom of Choosing Joe Biden &#124; Writes Like She Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are the highlights of why I posted my support of Obama&#8217;s decision within minutes of learning about the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciated you reprinting your BlogHer comments and they are very cool and give me an insight into (more than before) how you think.  So I guess I have to make it clear that I am not really a democrat. I don&#039;t like being one now but if we can get back to bipartisan workmanship I might not mind. Ohio makes me register in order to vote in the primaries so I am registered as a dem currently.  For half of the prez elections I&#039;ve voted in I have not voted for either party (that was not an option this year it&#039;s too important). Ok Im done lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciated you reprinting your BlogHer comments and they are very cool and give me an insight into (more than before) how you think.  So I guess I have to make it clear that I am not really a democrat. I don&#8217;t like being one now but if we can get back to bipartisan workmanship I might not mind. Ohio makes me register in order to vote in the primaries so I am registered as a dem currently.  For half of the prez elections I&#8217;ve voted in I have not voted for either party (that was not an option this year it&#8217;s too important). Ok Im done lol</p>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama, btw, pretty much came up with 57 reasons to support Biden :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama, btw, pretty much came up with 57 reasons to support Biden <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my take on Biden after much thought; he is the maverick who went to Washington and did what John McCain only sometimes did...he stayed focused on the civility needed to work change because he really is of that era that embraced working with Republicans. This is a microcosm of what needs to happen on the Internat&#039;l level and the two of them are sympatico on this (well at least the record Obama has so far shows he has done it and Joe&#039;s extensive record proves he does it consistently. I really think the Obama campaign needs to focus on the idea that Biden is a tried and true maverick who wants to try ideas and get bipartisan suppport and that experience enhances the ticket and is in line with Obama&#039;s values and direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my take on Biden after much thought; he is the maverick who went to Washington and did what John McCain only sometimes did&#8230;he stayed focused on the civility needed to work change because he really is of that era that embraced working with Republicans. This is a microcosm of what needs to happen on the Internat&#8217;l level and the two of them are sympatico on this (well at least the record Obama has so far shows he has done it and Joe&#8217;s extensive record proves he does it consistently. I really think the Obama campaign needs to focus on the idea that Biden is a tried and true maverick who wants to try ideas and get bipartisan suppport and that experience enhances the ticket and is in line with Obama&#8217;s values and direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Lisa for asking that - you never let us ride! :)

For the benefit of others, here&#039;s the answer I posted at BlogHer:

You have to ask the hardest questions, now,
don&#039;t you!?

I can&#039;t just ride along, can I? Rats.

Well - first, let me say - I get people&#039;s complaints about Biden not being new, Biden not being a governor, Biden being male and white and from a small state.

BUT - I think if there are lessons we&#039;ve learned already, that we might not have had the advantage of having until Obama become the candidate he now is (seriously, think back a year ago - he was sparkling, but how much more did we see beyond that sparkle compared to what we&#039;ve seen in 12-15 mos?), they include:

1. trusting the people Obama trusts.  Not all of them, and not all of them on every decision.  But there&#039;s no doubt that the team he&#039;s assembled and relied on, by and large, over the last two years have some serious mojo and instincts and smarts. He had a VP selection committee - most people liked the people Obama named to help him.  If we can&#039;t trust this pick, if anyone who supported Obama can&#039;t trust this pick, you&#039;re going to have serious problems with him as a president, no?

2. Why the click? Because Biden has what I feel and have felt Obama lacks all along - and it is the double-edged sword that Nelle and a few others have pointed to that was referred to as entrenchment when it was mentioned in regard to Hillary: Biden has been there since he was 29!!!

But guess what? That &quot;entrenchment&quot; carries with it many goodies for people who are elected to be in D.C. - one of my concerns was the length of time it takes to build connections that can help you get what you want done actually done.  My concerns included confidence that Obama and his people, as new and fresh as many though not all of them are, could and would find the literally thousands of people they&#039;ll need to get done what they and we want them to get done.

These are the realities of goeverning a federal government. It&#039;s not sexy, it&#039;s not Utopian - it&#039;s what we have.

3. This is a Democracy.  Obama was not and has never been my pick for president, but I&#039;m a Democrat and by the system we have in place, he&#039;s getting the nod to be the candidate.  I don&#039;t have to love it but I do feel that I have to want to vote for him.

To expect that Obama would pick someone as emblematic as he is of change ignores the fact that, as I mentioned before, we have more than 100 million people who will be voting and WANT to vote and to whom the Dem. ticket MUST appeal in order to win (well, half of that and then some for good measure).

Just as a unitary president or a single-party federal government is dangerous, so would a ticket that is change and change.  We simply do not have an electorate that wants that - they will not vote for it.  Change freaks out a LOT of people - even when they really sincerely believe they want it and know they need it - they can still get freaked out and pull back.

Biden is a hedge against that urge.

4. The female myth. I&#039;m 46 - I want to break that ceiling too - but it never was Hillary for me - I don&#039;t care how feminine or what she is/was.  Yeah, I voted for her over Obama but I&#039;ve always said I&#039;d vote for whomever was the eventual nominee. Obama has many things going for him - no question. But not several of the things I prioritized in terms of governing.  That&#039;s just my perspective.

5. Why else I got the click: Biden is definitive where Obama is deliberative.  Deliberative is a thing i like - I love process.  But in times of crises, when you must act quickly, decisiveness with less info and input than you might prefer is necessary - and this is where Biden v. Obama&#039;s years in service matter to me.

6. There are other good choices, I happen to have lucked out that Obama chose the one I really like.  If it had been pretty much any of the others- with the exception of Webb - I would be fine too.  I just happen to really like Biden, Dodd and Richardson.

Again - we live in an enormous country.  Coming off of two weeks in a country of 6 million (Israel), really - unless you&#039;ve lived under such a small national government with such a small and tight population - Arabs absolutely included (I&#039;ll be writing more about that this week), I know - it can be really difficult to realize just how many people half the electorate comprises.  And how varied.

This choice is about shoring up governing and concerns about governing. If we can make that case - that this is the team that can and will govern this nation to a position of strenth on so many levels where we&#039;ve become weak or weakened, the White House will be Obama and Biden.  Independents want stability and improvement just as much as the next voter.  I believe this ticket has great potential to appeal to them.

And it&#039;s our job - those of us who support this ticket - to put out everything we can think of as to why this ticket is the one that can do that.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Lisa for asking that &#8211; you never let us ride! <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For the benefit of others, here&#8217;s the answer I posted at BlogHer:</p>
<p>You have to ask the hardest questions, now,<br />
don&#8217;t you!?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t just ride along, can I? Rats.</p>
<p>Well &#8211; first, let me say &#8211; I get people&#8217;s complaints about Biden not being new, Biden not being a governor, Biden being male and white and from a small state.</p>
<p>BUT &#8211; I think if there are lessons we&#8217;ve learned already, that we might not have had the advantage of having until Obama become the candidate he now is (seriously, think back a year ago &#8211; he was sparkling, but how much more did we see beyond that sparkle compared to what we&#8217;ve seen in 12-15 mos?), they include:</p>
<p>1. trusting the people Obama trusts.  Not all of them, and not all of them on every decision.  But there&#8217;s no doubt that the team he&#8217;s assembled and relied on, by and large, over the last two years have some serious mojo and instincts and smarts. He had a VP selection committee &#8211; most people liked the people Obama named to help him.  If we can&#8217;t trust this pick, if anyone who supported Obama can&#8217;t trust this pick, you&#8217;re going to have serious problems with him as a president, no?</p>
<p>2. Why the click? Because Biden has what I feel and have felt Obama lacks all along &#8211; and it is the double-edged sword that Nelle and a few others have pointed to that was referred to as entrenchment when it was mentioned in regard to Hillary: Biden has been there since he was 29!!!</p>
<p>But guess what? That &#8220;entrenchment&#8221; carries with it many goodies for people who are elected to be in D.C. &#8211; one of my concerns was the length of time it takes to build connections that can help you get what you want done actually done.  My concerns included confidence that Obama and his people, as new and fresh as many though not all of them are, could and would find the literally thousands of people they&#8217;ll need to get done what they and we want them to get done.</p>
<p>These are the realities of goeverning a federal government. It&#8217;s not sexy, it&#8217;s not Utopian &#8211; it&#8217;s what we have.</p>
<p>3. This is a Democracy.  Obama was not and has never been my pick for president, but I&#8217;m a Democrat and by the system we have in place, he&#8217;s getting the nod to be the candidate.  I don&#8217;t have to love it but I do feel that I have to want to vote for him.</p>
<p>To expect that Obama would pick someone as emblematic as he is of change ignores the fact that, as I mentioned before, we have more than 100 million people who will be voting and WANT to vote and to whom the Dem. ticket MUST appeal in order to win (well, half of that and then some for good measure).</p>
<p>Just as a unitary president or a single-party federal government is dangerous, so would a ticket that is change and change.  We simply do not have an electorate that wants that &#8211; they will not vote for it.  Change freaks out a LOT of people &#8211; even when they really sincerely believe they want it and know they need it &#8211; they can still get freaked out and pull back.</p>
<p>Biden is a hedge against that urge.</p>
<p>4. The female myth. I&#8217;m 46 &#8211; I want to break that ceiling too &#8211; but it never was Hillary for me &#8211; I don&#8217;t care how feminine or what she is/was.  Yeah, I voted for her over Obama but I&#8217;ve always said I&#8217;d vote for whomever was the eventual nominee. Obama has many things going for him &#8211; no question. But not several of the things I prioritized in terms of governing.  That&#8217;s just my perspective.</p>
<p>5. Why else I got the click: Biden is definitive where Obama is deliberative.  Deliberative is a thing i like &#8211; I love process.  But in times of crises, when you must act quickly, decisiveness with less info and input than you might prefer is necessary &#8211; and this is where Biden v. Obama&#8217;s years in service matter to me.</p>
<p>6. There are other good choices, I happen to have lucked out that Obama chose the one I really like.  If it had been pretty much any of the others- with the exception of Webb &#8211; I would be fine too.  I just happen to really like Biden, Dodd and Richardson.</p>
<p>Again &#8211; we live in an enormous country.  Coming off of two weeks in a country of 6 million (Israel), really &#8211; unless you&#8217;ve lived under such a small national government with such a small and tight population &#8211; Arabs absolutely included (I&#8217;ll be writing more about that this week), I know &#8211; it can be really difficult to realize just how many people half the electorate comprises.  And how varied.</p>
<p>This choice is about shoring up governing and concerns about governing. If we can make that case &#8211; that this is the team that can and will govern this nation to a position of strenth on so many levels where we&#8217;ve become weak or weakened, the White House will be Obama and Biden.  Independents want stability and improvement just as much as the next voter.  I believe this ticket has great potential to appeal to them.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s our job &#8211; those of us who support this ticket &#8211; to put out everything we can think of as to why this ticket is the one that can do that.</p>
<p>How&#8217;d I do?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jack Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Jack Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m relieved at the Biden pick, but I&#039;m not voting for the Obama-Biden ticket.  Over the last several hours, the TV news media has done a good job comparing these two to each other, and the contrast makes Obama look all the worse.  The ticket only works if Obama defers to Biden on foreign policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m relieved at the Biden pick, but I&#8217;m not voting for the Obama-Biden ticket.  Over the last several hours, the TV news media has done a good job comparing these two to each other, and the contrast makes Obama look all the worse.  The ticket only works if Obama defers to Biden on foreign policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No effect.  Clinton would have had an effect - probably positive, but maybe negative.  Is the old &quot;do no harm pick.&quot;  

I am just glad it is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No effect.  Clinton would have had an effect &#8211; probably positive, but maybe negative.  Is the old &#8220;do no harm pick.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I am just glad it is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/08/23/biden-yes-did-the-happy-dance-at-801am/comment-page-1/#comment-119554</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read your Election &#039;08 commentary all along, it&#039;s fascinating to watch the right lever be checked with you -- click! You are now on board. I wonder, reading the other comments over on BlogHer from disgruntled Hillary supporters and thrilled Republicans, what will come of this choice and how it will play this week at the DNC. What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read your Election &#8216;08 commentary all along, it&#8217;s fascinating to watch the right lever be checked with you &#8212; click! You are now on board. I wonder, reading the other comments over on BlogHer from disgruntled Hillary supporters and thrilled Republicans, what will come of this choice and how it will play this week at the DNC. What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Sonenshein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Sonenshein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both members of this ticket voted for cloture on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&amp;session=2&amp;vote=00167&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FISA Amendment Act of 2008&lt;/a&gt;.  

One member of the ticket endorsed a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;total ban on semi-automatic firearms&lt;/a&gt;.  The other is on record as saying &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/5.0/GunFacts5-0-screen.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Banning guns is an idea whose time has come.&lt;/a&gt;&quot; 

I can&#039;t imagine being less enthusiastic about the Democratic ticket.  I guess I&#039;ll still vote for these guys, as they&#039;re probably a lesser evil than the Republicans. I just hope I&#039;m not so drunk that I fill in the wrong oval.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both members of this ticket voted for cloture on the <a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&amp;session=2&amp;vote=00167" rel="nofollow">FISA Amendment Act of 2008</a>.  </p>
<p>One member of the ticket endorsed a <a href="http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm" rel="nofollow">total ban on semi-automatic firearms</a>.  The other is on record as saying &#8220;<a href="http://gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/5.0/GunFacts5-0-screen.pdf" rel="nofollow">Banning guns is an idea whose time has come.</a>&#8221; </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine being less enthusiastic about the Democratic ticket.  I guess I&#8217;ll still vote for these guys, as they&#8217;re probably a lesser evil than the Republicans. I just hope I&#8217;m not so drunk that I fill in the wrong oval.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biden is a great choice and it&#039;s a great ticket. I&#039;d hate to be the Republican that McCain chooses to go up against him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden is a great choice and it&#8217;s a great ticket. I&#8217;d hate to be the Republican that McCain chooses to go up against him.</p>
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