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		<title>By: Refresher Course on Gender-Neutral Punching : Writes Like She Talks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refresher Course on Gender-Neutral Punching : Writes Like She Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 23:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chuck Butcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s try out the use of public office to benefit familial connections as a disqualifier.  That is exactly as corrupt as government gets, period.  I don&#039;t care spit what is alleged about ex-bro in law, there is a process and it isn&#039;t the Governor acting on sis&#039; behalf and firing a public servant who wouldn&#039;t.  What? It doesn&#039;t count if you&#039;re a Republican?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s try out the use of public office to benefit familial connections as a disqualifier.  That is exactly as corrupt as government gets, period.  I don&#8217;t care spit what is alleged about ex-bro in law, there is a process and it isn&#8217;t the Governor acting on sis&#8217; behalf and firing a public servant who wouldn&#8217;t.  What? It doesn&#8217;t count if you&#8217;re a Republican?</p>
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		<title>By: John Ettorre</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/08/29/dont-make-me-start-the-sexist-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-123118</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ettorre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woops. I misread Kathryn&#039;s comment in #4 above as being from you rather than her. That&#039;s the source of my misunderstanding, thinking it was you rather than her saying &quot;I try to be very careful jumping into race discussions because I am white.&quot; It didn&#039;t sound like you, which is what prompted me to write that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woops. I misread Kathryn&#8217;s comment in #4 above as being from you rather than her. That&#8217;s the source of my misunderstanding, thinking it was you rather than her saying &#8220;I try to be very careful jumping into race discussions because I am white.&#8221; It didn&#8217;t sound like you, which is what prompted me to write that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/08/29/dont-make-me-start-the-sexist-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-123087</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - why do you think I think race is off-limits partly because I&#039;m white? I&#039;m totally baffled.  

What understandable attitude? I think you are picking and choosing which posts of mine you&#039;re reading.  I spoke at a conference in San Fran on race and gender - I don&#039;t think any of the hundreds of folks who&#039;ve read or listened to me on the subject (and I didn&#039;t ask to be speaking on it - they asked me) would describe me in the exact opposite way - as someone who goes out of her way to ask questions and engage.

Eek - what is giving you this notion that I want to avoid it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; why do you think I think race is off-limits partly because I&#8217;m white? I&#8217;m totally baffled.  </p>
<p>What understandable attitude? I think you are picking and choosing which posts of mine you&#8217;re reading.  I spoke at a conference in San Fran on race and gender &#8211; I don&#8217;t think any of the hundreds of folks who&#8217;ve read or listened to me on the subject (and I didn&#8217;t ask to be speaking on it &#8211; they asked me) would describe me in the exact opposite way &#8211; as someone who goes out of her way to ask questions and engage.</p>
<p>Eek &#8211; what is giving you this notion that I want to avoid it?</p>
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		<title>By: John Ettorre</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/08/29/dont-make-me-start-the-sexist-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-123079</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ettorre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill, I invite and encourage you to get past your attitude that race is a partly off-limits subject simply because you&#039;re white. To me, that kind of racial guilt is so passe and self-defeating. On a more practical level, it prevents you from really engaging with and writing meaningfully about this election, or indeed about much of what&#039;s going on in the country at this moment in our history. 

Race is an essential element in the mix, and there&#039;s no getting away from it. When it&#039;s shoved under the rug out of politeness or fear of being thought racially insensitive, it becomes a looming undertone rather than a subject that can be dealt with in the open light of day, where it can be honestly debated. I would argue that your understandable attitude, shared by tens of millions of white Americans, only makes it harder to reconcile the races, because it puts the real stuff off limits for discussion, and ends up setting an environment in which whites ultimately patronize rather than really talk to their black neighbors and fellow citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill, I invite and encourage you to get past your attitude that race is a partly off-limits subject simply because you&#8217;re white. To me, that kind of racial guilt is so passe and self-defeating. On a more practical level, it prevents you from really engaging with and writing meaningfully about this election, or indeed about much of what&#8217;s going on in the country at this moment in our history. </p>
<p>Race is an essential element in the mix, and there&#8217;s no getting away from it. When it&#8217;s shoved under the rug out of politeness or fear of being thought racially insensitive, it becomes a looming undertone rather than a subject that can be dealt with in the open light of day, where it can be honestly debated. I would argue that your understandable attitude, shared by tens of millions of white Americans, only makes it harder to reconcile the races, because it puts the real stuff off limits for discussion, and ends up setting an environment in which whites ultimately patronize rather than really talk to their black neighbors and fellow citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jack Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Jack Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I forget, Summit County resident Mary Taylor is State Auditor, the sole Republican elected officeholder in Ohio&#039;s executive branch.  Without women, the GOP in Ohio would be a shambles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I forget, Summit County resident Mary Taylor is State Auditor, the sole Republican elected officeholder in Ohio&#8217;s executive branch.  Without women, the GOP in Ohio would be a shambles.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jack Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Jack Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: Helen Hurst, Lorain County GOP Chair, is in North Ridgeville, not Lorain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: Helen Hurst, Lorain County GOP Chair, is in North Ridgeville, not Lorain.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jack Williamson</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/08/29/dont-make-me-start-the-sexist-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-123015</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Jack Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Women play very influential roles within the Republican party in northern Ohio.  For example, Helen Hurst, the chair of the GOP in Lorain County, has been a party-builder in Lorain.  Marilyn Jacobcik is the assistant director at the Board of Elections, and is prominent in Elyria Republican circles.  Jennifer Fenderbosch is the one who keeps the communication channels open among the Avon Lake Republicans.  Jennifer Wasilk is the one who does much of the organizing among Amherst Republicans.  During the past academic year, the president of the Oberlin College Republicans was a woman.  In Erie County, the top Republican official, Commissioner Nancy McKeen, is a woman.  In Huron County, the Republican who networks the most is Joyce Houck.  The top of the Cuyahoga County ticket this year is Debbie Sutherland, who&#039;s running against Peter Lawson Jones for County Commissioner.  I&#039;m surprised you are unaware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women play very influential roles within the Republican party in northern Ohio.  For example, Helen Hurst, the chair of the GOP in Lorain County, has been a party-builder in Lorain.  Marilyn Jacobcik is the assistant director at the Board of Elections, and is prominent in Elyria Republican circles.  Jennifer Fenderbosch is the one who keeps the communication channels open among the Avon Lake Republicans.  Jennifer Wasilk is the one who does much of the organizing among Amherst Republicans.  During the past academic year, the president of the Oberlin College Republicans was a woman.  In Erie County, the top Republican official, Commissioner Nancy McKeen, is a woman.  In Huron County, the Republican who networks the most is Joyce Houck.  The top of the Cuyahoga County ticket this year is Debbie Sutherland, who&#8217;s running against Peter Lawson Jones for County Commissioner.  I&#8217;m surprised you are unaware.</p>
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		<title>By: Oengus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oengus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recognize  normal is convention and average for the most part, but many Americans default to often saying “that’s just weird” they relate to what they can understand and often get defensive to what they cannot, many times equating it to stupidity.  

I think different is just different.  

She has been governor of Alaska, she has constitutional obligations to her state and its best interests.   Alaska’s constitution actually requires that its leaders develop its resources in order to benefit the state.  It also has some uniqueness with respects to its independence and autonomy.  Again her being still in that mindset is very normal.  

She was on CNN and pushing for ANWR development, she was told she had the nomination on  woman’s equality day, by McCain personally, did you miss that?  That gets into what gets publicized in the media and then again what they just simply choose not to cover.    

I am not seeking the opinions of those with pen and paper, I am looking at the people on the street, they can relate to her many can.   This is more about natural resources and the war than about gender.  She has done some fast track acclimating in Alaska and she is very aggressive against the good old boys network.  

I do not understand why you believe she knows nothing about Ohio, if so she can confer with Voinovich?   

She is dealing with Alaska a unique micro economy of the US, she is dealing with a simpler less complex part of the US and very well it seems, what her role would be as VP is undefined other than pursuing the development of natural resources.  That’s what I am seeing in her, it would be difficult to say she has no respect for the environment.  That is real a real agenda that speaks to many Americans on big issues.   

She is a Washington outsider and not seeking notoriety at least not yet.  

The issue is that a republican president with democratic majority in both houses gets nowhere.   Compared to a democratic majority and where that  will get us?   

Its better not to get into the number of men that will vote for her because she is hot or the number of woman that will not vote for her because she is prettier than them.  

I cannot vote McCain/Palin to me it will create grid lock?  But then I think can Obama veto something faulted?  Does he have the tenacity?  

Legislation often has positive intentions that never gets fully realized in society and often is surrounded in denial of responsibility.  Never do they say we tried and it does not seem to be working, they keep calling themselves heroes and patting each others on the backs.  Or it all becomes a series of twisting manipulations devoid of reality.  

In a global economy its best to produce more and consume less.

Eventually those benefiting by consuming less and producing more catch up, a balancing of economies, but this was all thought out with little regard to the depletion of natural resources and the inherent inflation that comes with it and also the environmental destruction as well.   The competition for the resources will heat up international concerns and the potential for wars related to them.      

If we tested all these political on an understanding of what is linear and spatial relationships they may all fail miserably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recognize  normal is convention and average for the most part, but many Americans default to often saying “that’s just weird” they relate to what they can understand and often get defensive to what they cannot, many times equating it to stupidity.  </p>
<p>I think different is just different.  </p>
<p>She has been governor of Alaska, she has constitutional obligations to her state and its best interests.   Alaska’s constitution actually requires that its leaders develop its resources in order to benefit the state.  It also has some uniqueness with respects to its independence and autonomy.  Again her being still in that mindset is very normal.  </p>
<p>She was on CNN and pushing for ANWR development, she was told she had the nomination on  woman’s equality day, by McCain personally, did you miss that?  That gets into what gets publicized in the media and then again what they just simply choose not to cover.    </p>
<p>I am not seeking the opinions of those with pen and paper, I am looking at the people on the street, they can relate to her many can.   This is more about natural resources and the war than about gender.  She has done some fast track acclimating in Alaska and she is very aggressive against the good old boys network.  </p>
<p>I do not understand why you believe she knows nothing about Ohio, if so she can confer with Voinovich?   </p>
<p>She is dealing with Alaska a unique micro economy of the US, she is dealing with a simpler less complex part of the US and very well it seems, what her role would be as VP is undefined other than pursuing the development of natural resources.  That’s what I am seeing in her, it would be difficult to say she has no respect for the environment.  That is real a real agenda that speaks to many Americans on big issues.   </p>
<p>She is a Washington outsider and not seeking notoriety at least not yet.  </p>
<p>The issue is that a republican president with democratic majority in both houses gets nowhere.   Compared to a democratic majority and where that  will get us?   </p>
<p>Its better not to get into the number of men that will vote for her because she is hot or the number of woman that will not vote for her because she is prettier than them.  </p>
<p>I cannot vote McCain/Palin to me it will create grid lock?  But then I think can Obama veto something faulted?  Does he have the tenacity?  </p>
<p>Legislation often has positive intentions that never gets fully realized in society and often is surrounded in denial of responsibility.  Never do they say we tried and it does not seem to be working, they keep calling themselves heroes and patting each others on the backs.  Or it all becomes a series of twisting manipulations devoid of reality.  </p>
<p>In a global economy its best to produce more and consume less.</p>
<p>Eventually those benefiting by consuming less and producing more catch up, a balancing of economies, but this was all thought out with little regard to the depletion of natural resources and the inherent inflation that comes with it and also the environmental destruction as well.   The competition for the resources will heat up international concerns and the potential for wars related to them.      </p>
<p>If we tested all these political on an understanding of what is linear and spatial relationships they may all fail miserably.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel - thank you, but be fair.  Maybe the impressions I&#039;m expressing derive from a severe lack of diversity allowed to be represented by conservatives - how many other conservatives do you know who write what you just did? Who the media expose? Does the Family Research Council or Focus on the Family highlight marriages like yours?

I&#039;m very serious here.  I am very apt to say that a generalization isn&#039;t true when I&#039;m showing that it&#039;s not - but you are the only conservative so far that I can recall speaking the way you just did.

If there are many more, or you know many more, I would URGE conservatives, if they are really serious about Sarah Palin fitting in with their sense of family values, to highlight people like you.

Otherwise - what you call a caricature will remain what I know to be what I&#039;ve observed and heard.

So far - you are the exception to what is presented by the conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel &#8211; thank you, but be fair.  Maybe the impressions I&#8217;m expressing derive from a severe lack of diversity allowed to be represented by conservatives &#8211; how many other conservatives do you know who write what you just did? Who the media expose? Does the Family Research Council or Focus on the Family highlight marriages like yours?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very serious here.  I am very apt to say that a generalization isn&#8217;t true when I&#8217;m showing that it&#8217;s not &#8211; but you are the only conservative so far that I can recall speaking the way you just did.</p>
<p>If there are many more, or you know many more, I would URGE conservatives, if they are really serious about Sarah Palin fitting in with their sense of family values, to highlight people like you.</p>
<p>Otherwise &#8211; what you call a caricature will remain what I know to be what I&#8217;ve observed and heard.</p>
<p>So far &#8211; you are the exception to what is presented by the conservatives.</p>
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