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Sheesh.  I wrote this almost a week ago and no one has asked me to apologize.  Maybe my readers are smarter than…

Oh, nevermind.

If you still don’t get it, listen to Mike Huckabee who sides with Barack Obama:

“It’s an old expression, and I’m going to have to cut Obama some slack on that one. I do not think he was referring to Sarah Palin; he didn’t reference her. If you take the two sound bites together, it may sound like it,” he said on Fox’s “Hannity and Colmes.”

“But I’ve been a guy at the podium many times, and you say something that’s maybe a part of an old joke and then somebody ties it in. So, I’m going to have to cut him slack.”

Or Marc Ambinder who provides John McCain’s reference to Hillary Clinton health care policies as lipstick on a pig:

McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health-care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton’s plan, he said it was “eerily reminiscent” of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the 1990s.

“I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig,” he said of her proposal.

Yup – it’s still opposite day.

I think, at the debates, Palin should not wear lipstick and, in good faith, the men should all wear lipstick – including the moderators.

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By Jill Miller Zimon at 10:57 am September 10th, 2008 in Politics 

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14 Responses to “About lipstick and smears”

  1. 1 cynthia samuels on September 10th, 2008 11:10 am

    Great! I have now erased the “thong” imaga with one of a lipstick Freaky Friday! Big improvement!

  2. 2 Daniel Jack Williamson on September 10th, 2008 12:24 pm

    I agree with Mike Huckabee regarding Obama’s intent.

    This probably would have gone without mention if not for the audience reaction during Obama’s speech. As I watched the video replay of the event in question, Obama seems quite sincere, on message, and not focused on Palin in the least. If the audience had sat on their hands and hadn’t uttered a peep at this juncture, there would have been no big “to-do” over this.

    Instead, as Obama finishes his lipstick comment, and pauses before he offers his fish wrapped in newspaper comment, as one looks at the faces of the audience behind Obama, one can see the smirk cross their faces as they make a connection to the lipstick comment that Obama failed to make, and they applaud with mirthful claps and cheers. The viewer of the video who focuses on Obama during the playback would not be apt to cry “foul.” The viewer who focuses on the audience would say “Someone just told an inside joke.” That’s why this distraction has taken on a life of its own.

  3. 3 Jeff R. on September 10th, 2008 1:10 pm

    The RNC spin machine at work. The comment from the McCain adviser that McCain’s use of the same term was in regard to policy. I guess he is too deaf that Obama was referring to same. Desperate! While were at it “Swift Boat”. Google Vitnam Veterans Against McCain. It is the original group that brought you the Kerry swiftboat. They are against both Kerry and McCain for stabbing them in the back on MIA/POWs besides embelishing the truth.

  4. 4 Frank on September 10th, 2008 1:11 pm

    If anyone made the connection between this very old expression (which so aptly applies to McCain/Palin/GOP lies), it is only because of Palin’s own joke about lipstick being the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull (whatever that means). So even if there’s an implicit connection, it’s neither a specifically gendered comment nor an insult (unless you think being a pitbull — as Palin called herself — is so much better than being a pig). What a tempest in a teapot the McCain campaign has made of this. Ooops, I’m sorry, is referring to hot tea an implict slam on McCain’s age? Sheesh.

  5. 5 independent on September 10th, 2008 2:45 pm

    Let’s see:
    It’s fine when McCain uses the same expression directed at Hillary but it’s wrong when Obama is directing it at the republican ticket.
    Do you smell some hypocrisy here?
    If Palin can’t play in the the big league with the ‘old boys’, mabe she should take her lipstick and go home.

  6. 6 C Lynn on September 10th, 2008 3:12 pm

    Everyone seems to forget that not one of the four candidates have experience at being Commander in Chief BECAUSE neither of the four have been Commander in Chief. McCain is NOT the only person in America that has ever been a POW and that does not give him an “I SHOULD BE PRESIDENT” pass. When he chose to attend a military school and was commissioned, that became HIS CHOSEN OCCUPATION. He only did what my son is doing now. The American people DON’T owe him anything. He served and he was paid for each and every day that he served. I am sure each and every check that he received from his days of service were spent and not given to the American people. What he was owed,
    he received–his freedom and the ability to return to this free world and get a job like everyone else. The ones who are owed are those who DID NOT RETURN. The ones who are owed are those who DIED IN SERVICE TO THIS GREAT COUNTRY. He is no more qualified to be President than Obama, Palin or Biden. To be qualified for a job, you must have been
    in that position. Have they? NO… So let’s get beyond this and get back to what matters–THE ISSUES. Or are we going to allow the media to keep us occupied thinking about “lipstick on a pig” comments USED BY BOTH PARTIES, “lipstick on a bulldog”, pregnant teenagers, action figures, flipflop ties to the Bridge to Nowhere, sexism
    claims, racism claims, etc.? LET’S GET BACK TO THE ISSUES–this failing economy, the high price of gasoline, the energy crisis, the need for affordable healthcare, our substandard education system, the high rate of unemployment, the inevitable continuance of house foreclosures, this USELESS war which was based on the pride of our current Commander in Chief. Shall I continue?

  7. 7 Jill Miller Zimon on September 10th, 2008 10:50 pm

    C Lynn – thanks but, um, well – there are probably better posts for your comments. Still – thanks for reading and for sure, You should continue, but you might want to give us some reasons as to why you feel the way you do – which clearly is passionate.

  8. 8 Jill Miller Zimon on September 10th, 2008 10:52 pm

    All else: thanks – I think we seem to agree on this. I don’t understand why McCain would overreach on this – except that they have an MO to screech “sexist” on everything. I know what that feels like – I’ve been accused of doing that – but every instance I’ve sighted has been very arguable – people on both sides. Here – not so much.

    Anyway – thanks for the level-headed analysis.

    Now – you all know that the Plain ABC interviews will be previewing on World News Tonight tomorrow night, don’t cha? :)

  9. 9 Oengus on September 11th, 2008 12:54 am

    Well here is the two plans side by side, http://www.health08.org/sidebyside_results.cfm?c=5&c=16

    Obamas call for the building on a national medical record system.

    · Under Cost Containment, Invest $50 billion toward adoption of electronic medical records and other health information technology

    That’s actually imperative to have, and you really should demand the records belong to you and only you can allow access to them. The records could be queried anonymously and should be by region and conditions and even results of specific treatments, and also missed diagnosis and also wrong diagnosis’s.
    Cost control has to eliminate fraud and also hypochondria and also weed out bad providers.

    Clintons “lipstick on a pig” proposal had a co-payment that’s imperative, otherwise it becomes very much like free donuts on bingo night.

    If we were to build a ground up health system it would not resemble either what we have or what they even propose, unfortunately we cannot convert the system that easily, the data who, what, where the charges are not related to costs. The majority of healthcare costs are fixed the building the staff etc. You being there is not that expensive, the costs of labor is outrageous in healthcare. They guess what you have and offer little to you in respects to their performance and accountability.
    McCain proposes allowing health centers in retail stores? The weirdoes at Wall mart? Then limits liability in malpractice? That scares me, the combination. This makes me wonder if Wal-Mart get forced to contribute to employees health do they want to have control over it? WHY RETAIL STORES?

    Should we all be talking about the line items? Keep in mind they are proposals they do not have to do any of this, and then they may not be able to accomplish any of these.

    The first step is the medical records and they all need to record in the same system. The only time that information can or should be displayed is when you request treatment. It has to be guarded with a type of gatekeeper and record every time the records are reviewed and by who. We should get a report each time we get treated, then also have access to anonymous data, what is the diagnosis etc.

    This is best because it would not matter if you change locations or insurance, the records remain constant and could be linked through family lineage over time. Asking if you have family history of certain conditions is archaic, it should be part of your record. If research finds genetic link then you should get a notice.

    The records can and should never be accessible to anyone that would use them against you, it is possible to have judicial access under order of the court through do process. But an employer should not have direct access ever and should never be allowed to request them.

    The same system could be used to track educational records and employment records…makes me think this could be the future of banking since they have the systems that could link all the data and make it very accessible, think about it if you buy a shirt at Target it gets recorded and displayed on the web within 24 hrs.
    How about a resume that is backed with federal records, your education and work history. Something about getting the correct people in the correct places.

    All insurances should be self managed, and have minimum requirements and the government should insure 100% participation.

    It s all about efficiency and zero risk, it really is all about math and mathematical relationships and the technology allows nearly full regulation. Real-time data it just need to be locked down and secure.

  10. 10 Oengus on September 11th, 2008 1:33 am

    http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/06/16/1/a-discussion-about-healthcare-with-ezekiel-ari-and-rahm-emanuel

    Best proposal…make an effort read the comments.

    Clinton took over where Dr. Bernadette Healy left off.

    Cleveland is ahead of the nation, I know I worked on the implementation of Epic software at the CCF, a paying gig. I audited the network for them, created a data base that identified every terminal and location across the campus. What server it was on and if the terminal was able to support the application. That took a month to do, I also worked for the International center for a while, a driver if a Saudi prince wanted to go out then I would take him. I also shuttled the doctors to and from the airport. I talked with doctors about national health care, never Healy though she was already the Head of the National Institutes of Health, and not that involved in the Clinic. Hilary took over her role and had made great strides and was stonewalled in the houses.

    Much of this has to do with why the clinic bought up all the hospitals, strives to have one system, Bush senior appointed Healy and Bill appointed Hilary…that was controversial until she began to speak on the matter, then we all realized she had a brain.

    I only mention this because what Ezekiel proposes are very similar to relative conversations I instigated with administrates at the CCF…while I was beyond the wheel?

  11. 11 Oengus on September 11th, 2008 1:54 am

    Are you familiar with these brother Jill?

    They have talked about the possibility of Jewish intellectual superiority, I asked an acquaintance a young man who’s father is a professor at a local university, Law and Urban studies. He is Jewish, that being his father is technically his son is not since his mother is I believe a catholic.

    Lets see if we can figure that out, the mother not the father, why?

    Anyway the hypothesis is that of polygamy and that the best men got the pick of as many wife’s as they wished. This created larger families that also selected the best and gave them first rights. If the man choose a gentile then it ended.

    I have Jewish people in my circle and they are very bright, so I can not disprove the hypothesis.

    We all like to see the intellect and sometimes test it, to see where it begins and ends. Not just that of others but our own.

  12. 12 Chuck Butcher on September 11th, 2008 3:36 am

    It is too bad that McCain chose to insult pigs by calling them Palins, that is truly rude. But the thing that begs and begs is just exactly what a person would call a female pitbull that was wearing lipstick? I’m pretty sure that would qualify as a crazy female dog…or you could pick your own appellation.

  13. 13 Chuck Butcher on September 11th, 2008 3:37 am

    Oh I know…but it wasn’t my image or label, either.

  14. 14 Eric on September 11th, 2008 5:02 pm

    Daniel Jack Williamson does the best impersonation of Nostradamus I’ve ever seen. Via video even!

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