Comments on: World Evangelical Alliance wants end to dialogue, increase in conversion of Jews

By: | angie newsome

| angie newsome — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:05:18 +0000

[...] They aren’t remote, they habitually converse. [...]

By: Ladalang

Ladalang — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:04:22 +0000

Matt, at the point you accept Jesus you stop being a Jew and are then called a Christian.

I realize you think this gives you credibility by still calling yourself a Jew but the line is very clear. As a Jew I understand your difficulty in letting go of this honorable identifier.

But It’s OK to refer to yourself as a Christian, calling yourself a Jew just isn’t the truth. If you are a Christian be proud of it.

By: Matt Sieger

Matt Sieger — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:56:50 +0000

Jill,
Yes, I do work with Jews for Jesus. I have been a believer in Jesus since 1978. You can read a little more about how that happened here: http://jewsforjesus.org/publications/issues/3_6/coincidence
I think the point I made is clear. You quote YNET saying that the WEA statement calls for “forfeiting the Christian-Jewish dialogue.” As my quote from the WEA statement shows, it does no such thing. It states, among other things, that “dialogue and evangelism are not mutually exclusive.”

By: Jill Miller Zimon

Jill Miller Zimon — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:23:38 +0000

Matt – thanks for reading and commenting. My brother was a Jew for Jesus for a few years in the 1980s and since that’s where your hyperlink goes I assume you are involved?

Maybe you should say more about your experience.

Yes I did read the document but that’s a fair question. I believe the intent I’ve inferred from the doc and the articles is accurate – you are saying it isn’t – based on what?

By: Matt Sieger

Matt Sieger — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:12:34 +0000

I am a Jewish believer in Jesus. You need to get your facts straight before writing your articles. You quoted YNET’s statement: “The conference . . . ended with a statement calling for forfeiting the Christian-Jewish dialogue in favor of distributing the gospel among the Jewish people.” Do you just believe YNET? You give your readers a link to the WEA document, but did you read it for yourself? Here is what it actually says regarding Jewish-Christian dialogue: “Christians have much to learn from the Jewish people. We recognise our need to hear Jewish concerns. We affirm the importance of dialogue in promoting mutual understanding and sympathy. Dialogue provides an opportunity to share deeply held beliefs in a context of mutual respect. Dialogue and evangelism are not mutually exclusive.”

By: Daniel Jack Williamson

Daniel Jack Williamson — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:44:26 +0000

What, exactly, has Palin, herself, expressed concerning her views of the Jewish religion?

I think Republicans made a mistake by trying to suggest that Obama feels sympathetic toward Louis Farrakhan’s anti-Semitic statements.

Is a mistake being made here in assigning a view to Palin that she, herself, hasn’t expressed?

By: Jill Miller Zimon

Jill Miller Zimon — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:48:07 +0000

OMG, Babz, I love you! “Don’t piss on me and call it rain.”

I needed that line! Just read that Clinton pulled out of an NYC rally because Palin got invited and is doing it, but they didn’t ask the Obama campaign to send anyone, organizers decided Clinton was big enough rep – that might be true, but for the sake of propriety, you ask the Obama campaign – ugh.

By: Lovebabz

Lovebabz — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:45:04 +0000

Look I don’t see these folks marching their asses off to any islamic country talking this stuff. I don’t hear them trying to embrace muslims. That mess they are doing is code for “let’s shift the focus to jew hatred and see how far we get”

That’s all I hear when I read stuff like this. I mean where is the respect and tolerance not only for jews but for themselves. If there are jews who want to get down with christianity fine…let those that want to do so seek it out. But don’t spin drama about embracing jews…calling it conversions.

Don’t piss on me and call it rain.

By: Jill Miller Zimon

Jill Miller Zimon — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:21:43 +0000

Babz, I really appreciate you commenting as you have because I have some folks in the blogs who try to discuss this from a theological intellectual level – remember when Ann Coulter talked about “perfecting Jews” and everyone in her camp went nuts, trying to justify it as theologically honest?

I’m not stupid – I GET that part. But the fact is that in impact, in the way it’s carried out, and in a world of 6 billion people – with only 12 million who are Jews – this kind of talk seems crazy to me. But then, I’m a Jew, I’m not perfect.

Sorry – I just have a very hard time with this. I want people to believe what they want to believe, but in a multicultural world, there have to be practical restraints. Not to mention a compassion for the impact of what you interpret your religion to require.

Anyway – thanks. A lot.

By: Lovebabz

Lovebabz — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:14:17 +0000

This is a very dangerous act. They kknow exactly what they are doing. This in my opinion is to rile up folks and start anti-semetic discussions amongst the ignorant and ill-informed.

Timing is everything. This is not by accident. Look who the GOP has chosen as their VP candidate…it is all connected. One thing opens the door for another.

Shit.