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	<title>Comments on: [updated] Can we just agree that calling Dems &#8220;socialist&#8221; is off the table</title>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; Obama&#8217;s Socialism Exposed by Joe the Plumber; Race Is McCain&#8217;s to Win</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/10/13/can-we-just-agree-that-calling-dems-socialist-is-off-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-146100</link>
		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; Obama&#8217;s Socialism Exposed by Joe the Plumber; Race Is McCain&#8217;s to Win</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ladalang</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/10/13/can-we-just-agree-that-calling-dems-socialist-is-off-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-145069</link>
		<dc:creator>Ladalang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I base my reply on your reply, so you tell me what you believe and support every single time you post.  I&#039;m reading your words, that&#039;s how I know.  I&#039;m reading links you post and the millions of reason you think BO should be president.  If you put what you believe out there and someone offers the counter they obviously know where you stand.  I&#039;m not assuming anything, I&#039;m reading your views in black and white right here for the world to see.  Are you just floating in the wind all of the sudden; am I mistaken in thinking you are the author of this blog?   

I&#039;m not speaking for what you think Jill, you are.  

Own it already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I base my reply on your reply, so you tell me what you believe and support every single time you post.  I&#8217;m reading your words, that&#8217;s how I know.  I&#8217;m reading links you post and the millions of reason you think BO should be president.  If you put what you believe out there and someone offers the counter they obviously know where you stand.  I&#8217;m not assuming anything, I&#8217;m reading your views in black and white right here for the world to see.  Are you just floating in the wind all of the sudden; am I mistaken in thinking you are the author of this blog?   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not speaking for what you think Jill, you are.  </p>
<p>Own it already!</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/10/13/can-we-just-agree-that-calling-dems-socialist-is-off-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-145058</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is it with you and assumptions? I live here - I plan on living here a while - why do you think I love or like one system more or less than the other?

Oy.  I think things are best expressed when they are expressed for yourself and not constantly speculating on what you think I think, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it with you and assumptions? I live here &#8211; I plan on living here a while &#8211; why do you think I love or like one system more or less than the other?</p>
<p>Oy.  I think things are best expressed when they are expressed for yourself and not constantly speculating on what you think I think, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: Ladalang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ladalang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read my post again.  We have socialism now we don&#039;t have capitalism.  We haven&#039;t had capitalism for almost 100 years.  

Capitalism is made out to be the bad guy because we have a few tiny aspects of capitalism like freedom and liberty but even those are fast becoming a thing of the past.  Capitalism was the founding principal of our great nation because it secured freedom and liberty.  

Socialism has never been successful in history.  It goes against the laws of nature; the survival of the fittest.

Our country has been grooming a welfare state to the point the final complete switch to socialism can be made and it will actually be voted on and approved by the poor, who have been created poor by socialistic policies and streaming propaganda.  

Jill you are no different than so many millions of people you&#039;ve been indoctrinated into thinking capitalism is the bad guy but you are actually upset at socialism not capitalism.  Socialism is a corrupt system.    

http://mises.org/etexts/anticap.pdf

read this so you can see a different side.  If you still think you want socialism I will leave the topic alone, I just don&#039;t like to see intelligent people so misinformed.  I have to at least  try.  If you will read it with an open intelligent mind; I think you&#039;ll be enlightened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read my post again.  We have socialism now we don&#8217;t have capitalism.  We haven&#8217;t had capitalism for almost 100 years.  </p>
<p>Capitalism is made out to be the bad guy because we have a few tiny aspects of capitalism like freedom and liberty but even those are fast becoming a thing of the past.  Capitalism was the founding principal of our great nation because it secured freedom and liberty.  </p>
<p>Socialism has never been successful in history.  It goes against the laws of nature; the survival of the fittest.</p>
<p>Our country has been grooming a welfare state to the point the final complete switch to socialism can be made and it will actually be voted on and approved by the poor, who have been created poor by socialistic policies and streaming propaganda.  </p>
<p>Jill you are no different than so many millions of people you&#8217;ve been indoctrinated into thinking capitalism is the bad guy but you are actually upset at socialism not capitalism.  Socialism is a corrupt system.    </p>
<p><a href="http://mises.org/etexts/anticap.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://mises.org/etexts/anticap.pdf</a></p>
<p>read this so you can see a different side.  If you still think you want socialism I will leave the topic alone, I just don&#8217;t like to see intelligent people so misinformed.  I have to at least  try.  If you will read it with an open intelligent mind; I think you&#8217;ll be enlightened.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lada - don&#039;t take this personally, ok? you want debate you got it - 

What you write assumes that we don&#039;t already have socialism of any kind operating in our country. You tell me to &quot;look woman&quot; - why don&#039;t you look first for goodness sake.

You and others who have commented here write and express opinions about what you put in quotes - egads! &quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;SOCIALISM!!!!!!&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot; as though it&#039;s a profane four letter word.

How absurd.  How utterly absurd.

This is about priorities - this is about preferences - this is about what kind of world one wants to live in vis a vis every other human in our society.

I hate labels - I hate the idea that people think socialism is some reprehensible and evil plan to rob people of something and I hate that people refuse to recognize that it&#039;s just as much about sacrifice and swapping out as capitalism is.  The only difference is how much ends up with which members of the society.

Sigh. Honestly.  Such lengths to which people will go to protect what they want and repel what they fear.  It&#039;s an ideology for goodness sakes - not some flesh-eating bacteria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lada &#8211; don&#8217;t take this personally, ok? you want debate you got it &#8211; </p>
<p>What you write assumes that we don&#8217;t already have socialism of any kind operating in our country. You tell me to &#8220;look woman&#8221; &#8211; why don&#8217;t you look first for goodness sake.</p>
<p>You and others who have commented here write and express opinions about what you put in quotes &#8211; egads! &#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;SOCIALISM!!!!!!&#8221;"&#8221;" as though it&#8217;s a profane four letter word.</p>
<p>How absurd.  How utterly absurd.</p>
<p>This is about priorities &#8211; this is about preferences &#8211; this is about what kind of world one wants to live in vis a vis every other human in our society.</p>
<p>I hate labels &#8211; I hate the idea that people think socialism is some reprehensible and evil plan to rob people of something and I hate that people refuse to recognize that it&#8217;s just as much about sacrifice and swapping out as capitalism is.  The only difference is how much ends up with which members of the society.</p>
<p>Sigh. Honestly.  Such lengths to which people will go to protect what they want and repel what they fear.  It&#8217;s an ideology for goodness sakes &#8211; not some flesh-eating bacteria.</p>
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		<title>By: Ladalang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ladalang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t write the series Jill, so it&#039;s not my opinion, but it does however address quite succinctly why people view his policies as socialistic and is the topic of your post.

Wealth redistribution is a huge socialistic policy.  That isn&#039;t my opinion; that&#039;s true.  I&#039;m leaning toward the possibility that you don&#039;t know what socialism is.    

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rYgKFWHzE0

If you believe in taking money from people who have it and giving it to people who don&#039;t, that&#039;s a socialistic view point.  It goes against personal liberty and freedom.  Anytime you force someone to give something they earned for the support of people who didn&#039;t earn it that&#039;s socialism (wealth is owned by everyone, not the person who earned it)  Socialism is the absence of competition.  

The problem in our economy today is a result of wealth redistribution from the poor to the rich but for the same exact reason you should not support McCain you should not support Obama.  They are both socialist representing the rich not the poor.  They talk a good game but they don&#039;t have the power to go against the rich.   

Because remember, the rich supported Barack&#039;s campaign as well as McCains.  They are not going to do anything to change the current system, they can&#039;t.  Powerful rich people put them where they are, it will look like it on paper, but its a fairytale to believe it will change.  The system needs to be fixed regardless of who&#039;s president.    

Our problem in this country is corrupt politicians who get paid to run by the very rich companies who are taking money from the poor.  If you think they will ever stop taking from the poor you are incredibly naive.  

They may not tax us directly but they&#039;ll do it by creating money out of thin air and pumping it into the economy.  This makes the money in our pocket worth nothing.  It&#039;s called inflation.  You don&#039;t think Barack&#039;s tax increases are going to affect our pocket books?             

Welfare is socialistic.  
Universal health care is socialistic.

It&#039;s estimated that Barack Obama is proposing to increase taxes $292.954 billion dollars.  ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=141

McCain isn&#039;t much better with $92.437 billion.  

Jill, who will be paying for these taxes?  You honestly think its just the rich?  Where logically do you think that money is coming from?  Are you under the impression the rich are powerless?      

Think woman...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t write the series Jill, so it&#8217;s not my opinion, but it does however address quite succinctly why people view his policies as socialistic and is the topic of your post.</p>
<p>Wealth redistribution is a huge socialistic policy.  That isn&#8217;t my opinion; that&#8217;s true.  I&#8217;m leaning toward the possibility that you don&#8217;t know what socialism is.    </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rYgKFWHzE0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rYgKFWHzE0</a></p>
<p>If you believe in taking money from people who have it and giving it to people who don&#8217;t, that&#8217;s a socialistic view point.  It goes against personal liberty and freedom.  Anytime you force someone to give something they earned for the support of people who didn&#8217;t earn it that&#8217;s socialism (wealth is owned by everyone, not the person who earned it)  Socialism is the absence of competition.  </p>
<p>The problem in our economy today is a result of wealth redistribution from the poor to the rich but for the same exact reason you should not support McCain you should not support Obama.  They are both socialist representing the rich not the poor.  They talk a good game but they don&#8217;t have the power to go against the rich.   </p>
<p>Because remember, the rich supported Barack&#8217;s campaign as well as McCains.  They are not going to do anything to change the current system, they can&#8217;t.  Powerful rich people put them where they are, it will look like it on paper, but its a fairytale to believe it will change.  The system needs to be fixed regardless of who&#8217;s president.    </p>
<p>Our problem in this country is corrupt politicians who get paid to run by the very rich companies who are taking money from the poor.  If you think they will ever stop taking from the poor you are incredibly naive.  </p>
<p>They may not tax us directly but they&#8217;ll do it by creating money out of thin air and pumping it into the economy.  This makes the money in our pocket worth nothing.  It&#8217;s called inflation.  You don&#8217;t think Barack&#8217;s tax increases are going to affect our pocket books?             </p>
<p>Welfare is socialistic.<br />
Universal health care is socialistic.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s estimated that Barack Obama is proposing to increase taxes $292.954 billion dollars.  ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=141</p>
<p>McCain isn&#8217;t much better with $92.437 billion.  </p>
<p>Jill, who will be paying for these taxes?  You honestly think its just the rich?  Where logically do you think that money is coming from?  Are you under the impression the rich are powerless?      </p>
<p>Think woman&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are entitled to your opinion.  Thank you for sharing it.  I don&#039;t agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are entitled to your opinion.  Thank you for sharing it.  I don&#8217;t agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Ladalang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ladalang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link I provided is a 20 part series on Obama and his socialistic policies.  The first called, Barack Obama&#039;s Stealth Socialism.  I checked the link myself, its clearly an entire series about the exact topic of your blog post.  That was clever though, your readers may dismiss it after reading your post and not click on it.  I give you props for the diversion but take points away for having to lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link I provided is a 20 part series on Obama and his socialistic policies.  The first called, Barack Obama&#8217;s Stealth Socialism.  I checked the link myself, its clearly an entire series about the exact topic of your blog post.  That was clever though, your readers may dismiss it after reading your post and not click on it.  I give you props for the diversion but take points away for having to lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lada - I don&#039;t know what you are reading, but this post has nothing to do with Obama or Obama being a socialist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lada &#8211; I don&#8217;t know what you are reading, but this post has nothing to do with Obama or Obama being a socialist.</p>
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		<title>By: Ladalang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ladalang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a series called the The Audacity of Socialism I think you&#039;ll find interesting regarding Barack.  I especially liked the piece on Saul Alinsky.  I think this will answer your question as to why people think he&#039;s a socialist.     

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/series8.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a series called the The Audacity of Socialism I think you&#8217;ll find interesting regarding Barack.  I especially liked the piece on Saul Alinsky.  I think this will answer your question as to why people think he&#8217;s a socialist.     </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ibdeditorials.com/series8.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibdeditorials.com/series8.aspx</a></p>
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