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	<title>Comments on: St. Louis sixth graders hold &#8220;Hit A Jew Day&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hit A Jew Day will not be deminished when these young punks learn about the Holocaust.
But that is the rub.  Jews act like victims and expect the horrors of what their co-religionists suffered from the Nazis to make them seem more likeable to their hitters.

Why didn&#039;t any of these Jewish children hit back?  The only time a bully is afraid or backs off is when he is confronted by force.
&quot;Don&#039;t hit me.  My people died in the Holocaust is music to the ears of the bully.
When Schindler&#039;s List came out some Jewish organziation paid for black youngsters from a high school or middle school to go to the movie.  They laughed and made fun of the Jews suffering under the Nazis.  Thewse sociopathic youngsters who were the product of single parents and the welfare check could not show any empathy much less sympathy.

My advice to these Jewish parents is teach your children how to be strong, not weak and fight and not share.


Bill Levy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hit A Jew Day will not be deminished when these young punks learn about the Holocaust.<br />
But that is the rub.  Jews act like victims and expect the horrors of what their co-religionists suffered from the Nazis to make them seem more likeable to their hitters.</p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t any of these Jewish children hit back?  The only time a bully is afraid or backs off is when he is confronted by force.<br />
&#8220;Don&#8217;t hit me.  My people died in the Holocaust is music to the ears of the bully.<br />
When Schindler&#8217;s List came out some Jewish organziation paid for black youngsters from a high school or middle school to go to the movie.  They laughed and made fun of the Jews suffering under the Nazis.  Thewse sociopathic youngsters who were the product of single parents and the welfare check could not show any empathy much less sympathy.</p>
<p>My advice to these Jewish parents is teach your children how to be strong, not weak and fight and not share.</p>
<p>Bill Levy</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Jewish community’s overreaction to implied threats–even when they’re relative pin pricks, as they are here–gets a tad tiresome sometimes.&lt;/i&gt;

John,

Perhaps living too close to the burning river has dulled your senses to the historical context here and why some people would take this more seriously.

Certainly one could argue that these are just kids being kids, but there is a history of this sort of thing leading to more serious incidents.

Many of us are the children or grandchildren of Holocaust survivors. We are familiar with stories of what happened when neighbors suddenly turned on neighbor.

We know stories of relatives hiding in the fields from the Cossacks, of the Inquisition and all sorts of nasty stuff.

We also are familiar with stories of quotas for how many Jews could be admitted into universities, or country clubs that denied entrance to us and numerous other issues that really aren&#039;t cute anecdotes that we tell around the kitchen table.

The thing is that when you find children engaging in this sort of dehumanizing behavior you slap it down. Certainly there is reason to be careful in your approach, but there is also reason to be vigilant about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Jewish community’s overreaction to implied threats–even when they’re relative pin pricks, as they are here–gets a tad tiresome sometimes.</i></p>
<p>John,</p>
<p>Perhaps living too close to the burning river has dulled your senses to the historical context here and why some people would take this more seriously.</p>
<p>Certainly one could argue that these are just kids being kids, but there is a history of this sort of thing leading to more serious incidents.</p>
<p>Many of us are the children or grandchildren of Holocaust survivors. We are familiar with stories of what happened when neighbors suddenly turned on neighbor.</p>
<p>We know stories of relatives hiding in the fields from the Cossacks, of the Inquisition and all sorts of nasty stuff.</p>
<p>We also are familiar with stories of quotas for how many Jews could be admitted into universities, or country clubs that denied entrance to us and numerous other issues that really aren&#8217;t cute anecdotes that we tell around the kitchen table.</p>
<p>The thing is that when you find children engaging in this sort of dehumanizing behavior you slap it down. Certainly there is reason to be careful in your approach, but there is also reason to be vigilant about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The principal should be fired. She didn&#039;t take it seriously until the ADL got involved. We don&#039;t know who the kids were that participated. And we likely will not We don&#039;t know if they were white, black, asian etc. The school is in an affluent area but kids are bused in from the inner city. It not necessary true that the kids were rednecks. It could have been anyone - any little ANTI-SEMITE. IT&#039;S ONLY A TRIVAL THING UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO YOU OR YOUR KID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The principal should be fired. She didn&#8217;t take it seriously until the ADL got involved. We don&#8217;t know who the kids were that participated. And we likely will not We don&#8217;t know if they were white, black, asian etc. The school is in an affluent area but kids are bused in from the inner city. It not necessary true that the kids were rednecks. It could have been anyone &#8211; any little ANTI-SEMITE. IT&#8217;S ONLY A TRIVAL THING UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO YOU OR YOUR KID.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stupid kids involved in this whole incident should be slapped down and slapped down hard.  

They were &quot;just playing&quot; is not even close to being an acceptable excuse.

Megan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stupid kids involved in this whole incident should be slapped down and slapped down hard.  </p>
<p>They were &#8220;just playing&#8221; is not even close to being an acceptable excuse.</p>
<p>Megan</p>
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		<title>By: SJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill, thanks for replying. I do agree with you that it absolutely is the responsibility of adults to educate children before the situation arises. It is part of doing right by children and the world. 

I&#039;m sure you can tell from the tone that I was not excusing the adults who dropped the ball and left us ignorant. I will not do the same to my girls.

Thanks for the rec of Paper Clips--I will look into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill, thanks for replying. I do agree with you that it absolutely is the responsibility of adults to educate children before the situation arises. It is part of doing right by children and the world. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you can tell from the tone that I was not excusing the adults who dropped the ball and left us ignorant. I will not do the same to my girls.</p>
<p>Thanks for the rec of Paper Clips&#8211;I will look into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elise - Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I think you espouse things we want to believe, but as a parent who has spent time in the schools and currently has a child in middle school, I disagree with your conclusions. I know there are other people who share your conclusions, I&#039;m just repeating that I do not.

And frankly, I guess, the argument that we just wouldn&#039;t hear about it so much or there wouldn&#039;t have been as big a stink?

That has zero connection to how wrong it is to have a &quot;hit&quot; anyone day.  Or to pick on kids who are fat, black, short or Chinese.

It&#039;s just wrong, Elise.  That&#039;s how I feel, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elise &#8211; Thanks for sharing your thoughts.</p>
<p>I think you espouse things we want to believe, but as a parent who has spent time in the schools and currently has a child in middle school, I disagree with your conclusions. I know there are other people who share your conclusions, I&#8217;m just repeating that I do not.</p>
<p>And frankly, I guess, the argument that we just wouldn&#8217;t hear about it so much or there wouldn&#8217;t have been as big a stink?</p>
<p>That has zero connection to how wrong it is to have a &#8220;hit&#8221; anyone day.  Or to pick on kids who are fat, black, short or Chinese.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just wrong, Elise.  That&#8217;s how I feel, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ettorre</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ettorre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we can agree on all of that, Jill. Obviously, I&#039;d be pretty horrified to learn that my kid had taken part in this. And I have no particular beef with ADL, other than that it does appear in this story as the group that&#039;s going to be coming in to do a form of re-education training, which does give me the creeps, I admit. Oddly enough, as I may or may not have mentioned, my youngest son now happens to be in St. Louis, as a freshman at St. Louis U. So I guess I read it with even more interest, owing to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can agree on all of that, Jill. Obviously, I&#8217;d be pretty horrified to learn that my kid had taken part in this. And I have no particular beef with ADL, other than that it does appear in this story as the group that&#8217;s going to be coming in to do a form of re-education training, which does give me the creeps, I admit. Oddly enough, as I may or may not have mentioned, my youngest son now happens to be in St. Louis, as a freshman at St. Louis U. So I guess I read it with even more interest, owing to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know, if the kids had done a &quot;Hit a Catholic Day&quot; there wouldn&#039;t be nearly as big of a stink.  Or &quot;hit a blond&quot;.  Or maybe if they had used the word &quot;tap&quot; which is what they were doing, instead of &quot;hit&quot;.

I think there are several things going on here.

1.  The propensity for humans to notice that some people are different than they are, and to put them into categories, a behavior that starts very young.

2. That any kind of selective pointing of fingers at people who represent a group that has been subject to discrimination or abuse is an anathema to thoughtful, civilized adults.

The kids could just as easily picked &quot;fat kids&quot; or &quot;black kids&quot; or &quot;short kids&quot; or &quot;chinese kids&quot; or &quot;red headed kids&quot; to &quot;hit&quot;, and then it might have been some other group up in arms.  But it wouldn&#039;t be about anti-semitic behavior.

Is it racist or bigoted for a child to notice that someone is different from them?  No.  It certainly looks that way when the next step is to &quot;hit&quot; or &quot;tap&quot; a person for their differences though.

Remembering how clueless I was as a six grader I tend to think that these kids stepped over a line that that they had no idea was there. 

The lesson for them should be about basic human courtesy and respect, for ALL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know, if the kids had done a &#8220;Hit a Catholic Day&#8221; there wouldn&#8217;t be nearly as big of a stink.  Or &#8220;hit a blond&#8221;.  Or maybe if they had used the word &#8220;tap&#8221; which is what they were doing, instead of &#8220;hit&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think there are several things going on here.</p>
<p>1.  The propensity for humans to notice that some people are different than they are, and to put them into categories, a behavior that starts very young.</p>
<p>2. That any kind of selective pointing of fingers at people who represent a group that has been subject to discrimination or abuse is an anathema to thoughtful, civilized adults.</p>
<p>The kids could just as easily picked &#8220;fat kids&#8221; or &#8220;black kids&#8221; or &#8220;short kids&#8221; or &#8220;chinese kids&#8221; or &#8220;red headed kids&#8221; to &#8220;hit&#8221;, and then it might have been some other group up in arms.  But it wouldn&#8217;t be about anti-semitic behavior.</p>
<p>Is it racist or bigoted for a child to notice that someone is different from them?  No.  It certainly looks that way when the next step is to &#8220;hit&#8221; or &#8220;tap&#8221; a person for their differences though.</p>
<p>Remembering how clueless I was as a six grader I tend to think that these kids stepped over a line that that they had no idea was there. </p>
<p>The lesson for them should be about basic human courtesy and respect, for ALL.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I think of you as a serious thinker and a serious friend of mine, with whom I have disagreements.  To me, that is a sign of respect.

So with that in mind, I tell you this: I received word of this incident from a friend who lives in Chicago, as I wrote above, who learned of the situation because she used to live in that area.  It had nothing to do with the ADL.  I really could care less about what the ADL does on any day to day basis - I&#039;m not an AIPAC supporter nor am I big ADL fan - never have been, don&#039;t expect to be.  I think both entities like many others serve important functions, but my upsetment over this incident has nothing to do with the ADL.

And I would guess that Gloria Ferris and others who&#039;ve expressed outrage about the incident also do so with no connection to the ADL.  So while you may have a beef with the ADL, clearly there are people who don&#039;t even know who or what the ADL is.  As far as I&#039;m concerned - they can focus on whatever they want. It doesn&#039;t impact me 99% of the time.

There&#039;s a hornet&#039;s nest here because the kids were wrong, the educators are showing some serious problems with understanding the egregiousness of what has happened and people are right to be upset.

That you aren&#039;t, well, you own that and that&#039;s fine.

But again, I completely disagree with your opinion about it being as trivial as I read your comments to indicate you believe this incident is/was.

The first clue that it&#039;s serious is the &quot;Hit a...Day&quot; - Hit?  Who the hell has a &quot;hit&quot; something or someone day as a spirit event?

That&#039;s just ill, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I think of you as a serious thinker and a serious friend of mine, with whom I have disagreements.  To me, that is a sign of respect.</p>
<p>So with that in mind, I tell you this: I received word of this incident from a friend who lives in Chicago, as I wrote above, who learned of the situation because she used to live in that area.  It had nothing to do with the ADL.  I really could care less about what the ADL does on any day to day basis &#8211; I&#8217;m not an AIPAC supporter nor am I big ADL fan &#8211; never have been, don&#8217;t expect to be.  I think both entities like many others serve important functions, but my upsetment over this incident has nothing to do with the ADL.</p>
<p>And I would guess that Gloria Ferris and others who&#8217;ve expressed outrage about the incident also do so with no connection to the ADL.  So while you may have a beef with the ADL, clearly there are people who don&#8217;t even know who or what the ADL is.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned &#8211; they can focus on whatever they want. It doesn&#8217;t impact me 99% of the time.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a hornet&#8217;s nest here because the kids were wrong, the educators are showing some serious problems with understanding the egregiousness of what has happened and people are right to be upset.</p>
<p>That you aren&#8217;t, well, you own that and that&#8217;s fine.</p>
<p>But again, I completely disagree with your opinion about it being as trivial as I read your comments to indicate you believe this incident is/was.</p>
<p>The first clue that it&#8217;s serious is the &#8220;Hit a&#8230;Day&#8221; &#8211; Hit?  Who the hell has a &#8220;hit&#8221; something or someone day as a spirit event?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just ill, John.</p>
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		<title>By: oengus</title>
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		<dc:creator>oengus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The communication network is more startling than the children, how to get it broadcast globally.  

I know exactly what my father would have said, he would have said you are not allowed to hit anyone and particularly not the Jewish kid…are you crazy I could loose my house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The communication network is more startling than the children, how to get it broadcast globally.  </p>
<p>I know exactly what my father would have said, he would have said you are not allowed to hit anyone and particularly not the Jewish kid…are you crazy I could loose my house.</p>
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