Comments on: Cafaro elected minority leader, GOP adds 2nd woman in OH state senate http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/12/cafaro-elected-minority-leader-gop-adds-2nd-woman-in-oh-state-senate/ "She is very powerful, so be nice to her." Former Chancellor, Ohio Board of Regents, Eric Fingerhut Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:51:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Len http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/12/cafaro-elected-minority-leader-gop-adds-2nd-woman-in-oh-state-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-163165 Len Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:25:23 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/?p=11280#comment-163165 Ryan, Whether that last comment was directed at me or not, I reject outright any suggestion that my remarks were motivated by sexist considerations. Now to address another of your straw men. I do not impugn her performance in office; not least because I know nothing about it. I don't exactly follow her career, but based on her bio she seems to be well-qualified to hold office. <em>That's not the point.</em> The point is this bit you <a href="http://www.ohiodailyblog.com/content/state-sen.-capri-cafaro-named-senate-minority-leader" rel="nofollow">posted at ODB</a>: <blockquote>In 2010 we must look to recapture some seats in the State Senate regardless of who drew the boundaries. I think we must look to Leader Cafaro to make this a reality.... Leader Cafaro - we put our trust in you. We know you can bring the Senate Democrats back from the spectre they currently are to a viable organization.</blockquote> Given her electoral track record, I again must ask the obvious question, which is wholly independent of gender or governance: What, exactly, does she know about winning contested elections? Ryan,

Whether that last comment was directed at me or not, I reject outright any suggestion that my remarks were motivated by sexist considerations.

Now to address another of your straw men.

I do not impugn her performance in office; not least because I know nothing about it. I don’t exactly follow her career, but based on her bio she seems to be well-qualified to hold office. That’s not the point. The point is this bit you posted at ODB:

In 2010 we must look to recapture some seats in the State Senate regardless of who drew the boundaries. I think we must look to Leader Cafaro to make this a reality….

Leader Cafaro – we put our trust in you. We know you can bring the Senate Democrats back from the spectre they currently are to a viable organization.

Given her electoral track record, I again must ask the obvious question, which is wholly independent of gender or governance: What, exactly, does she know about winning contested elections?

]]> By: Jill Miller Zimon http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/12/cafaro-elected-minority-leader-gop-adds-2nd-woman-in-oh-state-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-163107 Jill Miller Zimon Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:04:23 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/?p=11280#comment-163107 Again I think we have to think in terms of 21-12, yes? So how much power are we really talking about? I really don't know how things work in that chamber, in that caucus and I'm not sure how much it ends up impacting what becomes law and who we get to choose from to be our elected officials. But people were very unhappy with Ray Miller - is this pick worse? Well - what did he do while in that role that was bad? Will she do worse than that? There's a lot of negatives in her past - but what about for the last two years since she got in there? I've seen almost no reviews of that time - anyone? I'd be interested to compare her last two years, just to see if we really even need to be worried - and I agree, that's separate from being pissed off that Tom Roberts wasn't selected. Again I think we have to think in terms of 21-12, yes? So how much power are we really talking about? I really don’t know how things work in that chamber, in that caucus and I’m not sure how much it ends up impacting what becomes law and who we get to choose from to be our elected officials. But people were very unhappy with Ray Miller – is this pick worse? Well – what did he do while in that role that was bad? Will she do worse than that?

There’s a lot of negatives in her past – but what about for the last two years since she got in there? I’ve seen almost no reviews of that time – anyone? I’d be interested to compare her last two years, just to see if we really even need to be worried – and I agree, that’s separate from being pissed off that Tom Roberts wasn’t selected.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/12/cafaro-elected-minority-leader-gop-adds-2nd-woman-in-oh-state-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-162418 Ryan Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:18:21 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/?p=11280#comment-162418 I'm merely saying that I refuse to come out of the gate swinging. As I said, at first I wasn't thrilled but after thinking about it I decided that she deserves a chance to prove herself. Also, I'm not saying that we are going to take control of the State Senate. Sure, it would be great. But the reality is the districts are most likely too strongly Republican leaning. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to win one or two (or three or four.) Whats the problem with that. Also, besides the fact that people just dont like her, please tell me why she is unqualified to be a State Senator. She worked for Ted Kennedy and Al D'Amato in DC. She's not stupid and I think saying that her family got her her Senate seat is unfair. I also think its a bit sexist. I’m merely saying that I refuse to come out of the gate swinging. As I said, at first I wasn’t thrilled but after thinking about it I decided that she deserves a chance to prove herself.

Also, I’m not saying that we are going to take control of the State Senate. Sure, it would be great. But the reality is the districts are most likely too strongly Republican leaning. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to win one or two (or three or four.) Whats the problem with that.

Also, besides the fact that people just dont like her, please tell me why she is unqualified to be a State Senator. She worked for Ted Kennedy and Al D’Amato in DC. She’s not stupid and I think saying that her family got her her Senate seat is unfair. I also think its a bit sexist.

]]> By: Len http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/12/cafaro-elected-minority-leader-gop-adds-2nd-woman-in-oh-state-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-162392 Len Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:58:09 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/?p=11280#comment-162392 The new leader of Senate Democrats has never won a <em>contested</em> election, and yet Ryan is <a href="http://www.ohiodailyblog.com/content/state-sen.-capri-cafaro-named-senate-minority-leader" rel="nofollow">waxing lyrical</a> about her helping take electoral control of the state senate? Please. What, exactly, does she know about winning contested elections? This move is absurd. The new leader of Senate Democrats has never won a contested election, and yet Ryan is waxing lyrical about her helping take electoral control of the state senate? Please. What, exactly, does she know about winning contested elections?

This move is absurd.

]]> By: Have Coffee Will Write » Blog Archive » MY COMMENTS… http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/12/cafaro-elected-minority-leader-gop-adds-2nd-woman-in-oh-state-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-162058 Have Coffee Will Write » Blog Archive » MY COMMENTS… Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:13:38 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/?p=11280#comment-162058 [...] Cafaro elected minority leader, GOP adds 2nd woman in OH state senate Posted in Comments, Ohio, [...] [...] Cafaro elected minority leader, GOP adds 2nd woman in OH state senate Posted in Comments, Ohio, [...]

]]> By: Jeff Hess http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/12/cafaro-elected-minority-leader-gop-adds-2nd-woman-in-oh-state-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-162057 Jeff Hess Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:11:21 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/?p=11280#comment-162057 Shalom Jill, Please. Why do we expect people to take Ohio politics seriously? B'shalom, Jeff Shalom Jill,

Please. Why do we expect people to take Ohio politics seriously?

B’shalom,

Jeff

]]> By: Greg Helms http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/12/cafaro-elected-minority-leader-gop-adds-2nd-woman-in-oh-state-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-161537 Greg Helms Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:58:19 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/?p=11280#comment-161537 Possibly to start them on PERS sooner? Possibly to start them on PERS sooner?

]]> By: Jill Miller Zimon http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/12/cafaro-elected-minority-leader-gop-adds-2nd-woman-in-oh-state-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-161514 Jill Miller Zimon Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:17:03 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/?p=11280#comment-161514 Oy okay I must step away from here! My acuity drops enormously as the afternoon hours pass. Thanks, Paul. Oy okay I must step away from here! My acuity drops enormously as the afternoon hours pass.

Thanks, Paul.

]]> By: Paul http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/12/cafaro-elected-minority-leader-gop-adds-2nd-woman-in-oh-state-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-161512 Paul Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:10:17 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/?p=11280#comment-161512 The senate seat is scheduled to be filled by Husted come 1/1. It just seemed strange first pick anyone to fill in the seat for 6 weeks and if you did pick someone, why pick someone who was just elected to the state house? The senate seat is scheduled to be filled by Husted come 1/1.

It just seemed strange first pick anyone to fill in the seat for 6 weeks and if you did pick someone, why pick someone who was just elected to the state house?

]]> By: Jill Miller Zimon http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/12/cafaro-elected-minority-leader-gop-adds-2nd-woman-in-oh-state-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-161510 Jill Miller Zimon Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:02:58 +0000 http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/?p=11280#comment-161510 Hmm - good point - that didn't sink in until you wrote it - so - will they just appoint another person after her? They don't have a deep bench for that district? Hmm – good point – that didn’t sink in until you wrote it – so – will they just appoint another person after her? They don’t have a deep bench for that district?

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