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	<title>Comments on: Secret to NH State Senate female majority: it doesn&#8217;t pay</title>
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		<title>By: If the position doesn’t pay, does it command respect? - Moms On Issues - Work It, Mom!</title>
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		<dc:creator>If the position doesn’t pay, does it command respect? - Moms On Issues - Work It, Mom!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] debate occurring on blogs and listservs is whether or not the fact that women are the majority of New Hampshire’s Senate is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throwing my 2 cents in, you generally get what you pay for in life.  I really don&#039;t know much about my native NH&#039;s system but I do know my still rather small native city of Derry has like 6 or 8 state reps.  Strange.

I think Ohio&#039;s 99 has a good balanced feel to it having spent time trapsing around several state house districts over the last four years.

As for salary, I firmly believe that legislators, whether at the state of federal level need to get a significant amount of pay that allows them to focus on the work they are to do and not have to hold down another job at the same time, something that would only ever work at the state level.

I also think at the federal level, the government should build a series of secure dormatories for our DC critters.  They don&#039;t have to be terribly fancy but part of the reason they have to get so much money is that most maintain two homes and housing in DC is terribly expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throwing my 2 cents in, you generally get what you pay for in life.  I really don&#8217;t know much about my native NH&#8217;s system but I do know my still rather small native city of Derry has like 6 or 8 state reps.  Strange.</p>
<p>I think Ohio&#8217;s 99 has a good balanced feel to it having spent time trapsing around several state house districts over the last four years.</p>
<p>As for salary, I firmly believe that legislators, whether at the state of federal level need to get a significant amount of pay that allows them to focus on the work they are to do and not have to hold down another job at the same time, something that would only ever work at the state level.</p>
<p>I also think at the federal level, the government should build a series of secure dormatories for our DC critters.  They don&#8217;t have to be terribly fancy but part of the reason they have to get so much money is that most maintain two homes and housing in DC is terribly expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa- I completely agree - which is why I&#039;m really still unable to make sense (to my satisfaction) of how the NH one works, how ours works, others and so on.

I start to think about what seem to be basic questions: what&#039;s the legislature&#039;s role? How does it get filled - how is best filled?  By whom is it best served - are we best served?

And then: do we even get the luxury of meeting any of those ideals?

I just really never thought about the no pay thing - I didn&#039;t know that was the case.  I&#039;ve always known it didn&#039;t pay well and it wasn&#039;t typically full-time.  But the way in which the NH one works has just really confounded my making sense of how a state legislature is organized and functions in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa- I completely agree &#8211; which is why I&#8217;m really still unable to make sense (to my satisfaction) of how the NH one works, how ours works, others and so on.</p>
<p>I start to think about what seem to be basic questions: what&#8217;s the legislature&#8217;s role? How does it get filled &#8211; how is best filled?  By whom is it best served &#8211; are we best served?</p>
<p>And then: do we even get the luxury of meeting any of those ideals?</p>
<p>I just really never thought about the no pay thing &#8211; I didn&#8217;t know that was the case.  I&#8217;ve always known it didn&#8217;t pay well and it wasn&#8217;t typically full-time.  But the way in which the NH one works has just really confounded my making sense of how a state legislature is organized and functions in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
		<link>http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/11/21/secret-to-nh-state-senate-female-majority-it-doesnt-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-168580</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben - from what I&#039;ve been told, it&#039;s got to do with the populist nature of how they see government for their state.  The Wikipedia entry has some info on it &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_New_Hampshire#Legislative_Branch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;

For Ben and Lisa Renee re: who is attracted to such a legislature and how salary plays a role in other states, NCSL put out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncsl.org/magazine/articles/2008/08SLJulAug08_Hes21.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this pdf&lt;/a&gt; out a few months ago I think.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/4661065.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is another interesting article w/some cool facts in it - the women are called OWLs.

I&#039;ve got an email into someone at NCSL for more info - got an autoreply that she&#039;s out today.  But those links were just from googling. I don&#039;t possess any innate knowledge - which is why I&#039;m so curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben &#8211; from what I&#8217;ve been told, it&#8217;s got to do with the populist nature of how they see government for their state.  The Wikipedia entry has some info on it <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_New_Hampshire#Legislative_Branch" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
<p>For Ben and Lisa Renee re: who is attracted to such a legislature and how salary plays a role in other states, NCSL put out <a href="http://www.ncsl.org/magazine/articles/2008/08SLJulAug08_Hes21.pdf" rel="nofollow">this pdf</a> out a few months ago I think.</p>
<p><a href="http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/4661065.html" rel="nofollow">This</a> is another interesting article w/some cool facts in it &#8211; the women are called OWLs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got an email into someone at NCSL for more info &#8211; got an autoreply that she&#8217;s out today.  But those links were just from googling. I don&#8217;t possess any innate knowledge &#8211; which is why I&#8217;m so curious.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s look at our General Assembly as an example if you or I wanted to run as mothers.  We would have to leave our children with our spouses in charge and have to live in Columbus when the General Assembly was in session.  The income seems high at first, but not when you take into consideration the dual household requirements and any additional child care/costs from running two different households.  Only those who live within an easy commute to Columbus could do this.  

At times I wonder how impossibly difficult it must be for some of the wives of the General Assembly members from my area, especially those with young children.  These women voluntarily take on becoming basically single parents for stretches of time.  

It takes dedication and a desire to serve, similar in some ways to those who serve in the military.  It&#039;s not just those who actually serve who give more of themselves and sacrifice at times, it&#039;s their families too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s look at our General Assembly as an example if you or I wanted to run as mothers.  We would have to leave our children with our spouses in charge and have to live in Columbus when the General Assembly was in session.  The income seems high at first, but not when you take into consideration the dual household requirements and any additional child care/costs from running two different households.  Only those who live within an easy commute to Columbus could do this.  </p>
<p>At times I wonder how impossibly difficult it must be for some of the wives of the General Assembly members from my area, especially those with young children.  These women voluntarily take on becoming basically single parents for stretches of time.  </p>
<p>It takes dedication and a desire to serve, similar in some ways to those who serve in the military.  It&#8217;s not just those who actually serve who give more of themselves and sacrifice at times, it&#8217;s their families too.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well we know people arent in it for the money in NH.  does a state like NH really need that many House reps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well we know people arent in it for the money in NH.  does a state like NH really need that many House reps?</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Miller Zimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Miller Zimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely - I agree with all that. In fact, I posted this to one of the listservs I&#039;m on and received some feedback from someone who knows someone who is very familiar with the NH state legislature and this populist ideal is extremely strong there.  Very very interesting - but is it importable?  I just want to have the whole setup unpacked, so to speak - because it&#039;s truly something I&#039;ve not known about and I can&#039;t quite wrap my head around why other states don&#039;t have the same drive and so on.  Just intense curiosity, for a change. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely &#8211; I agree with all that. In fact, I posted this to one of the listservs I&#8217;m on and received some feedback from someone who knows someone who is very familiar with the NH state legislature and this populist ideal is extremely strong there.  Very very interesting &#8211; but is it importable?  I just want to have the whole setup unpacked, so to speak &#8211; because it&#8217;s truly something I&#8217;ve not known about and I can&#8217;t quite wrap my head around why other states don&#8217;t have the same drive and so on.  Just intense curiosity, for a change. <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could also suggest that this demonstrates that men don&#039;t care about actually serving but instead are only interested in politics, at least in NH if they are paid.

:-)
 
It is progress because at one time men were in the majority, so clearly at one point in time men thought it was &quot;worth it&quot; and personally the suggestion that the only reason why there are more women is because it doesn&#039;t pay is kind of an insult not only to those serving but to the concept of what our government was supposed to be all about, not career politicians in it for the money or the power, but the citizen legislator serving out of a love of their country...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could also suggest that this demonstrates that men don&#8217;t care about actually serving but instead are only interested in politics, at least in NH if they are paid.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It is progress because at one time men were in the majority, so clearly at one point in time men thought it was &#8220;worth it&#8221; and personally the suggestion that the only reason why there are more women is because it doesn&#8217;t pay is kind of an insult not only to those serving but to the concept of what our government was supposed to be all about, not career politicians in it for the money or the power, but the citizen legislator serving out of a love of their country&#8230;</p>
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