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	<title>Comments on: Live-blog: Will old media paradigms Shift into the new media world?</title>
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		<title>By: digg &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shaking Up the Paradigms at POLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>digg &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shaking Up the Paradigms at POLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to address the topic from a variety of angles and I really enjoyed seeing it happen.     Thanks for Jill Miller Zimon&#8217;s live-blogging notes for this session. And if you want to help make the new media world profitable, be sure to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to address the topic from a variety of angles and I really enjoyed seeing it happen.     Thanks for Jill Miller Zimon&#8217;s live-blogging notes for this session. And if you want to help make the new media world profitable, be sure to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cognitive evolution and revolution, part 1: #polc09 and a #diversityfail &#171; Liminal states</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cognitive evolution and revolution, part 1: #polc09 and a #diversityfail &#171; Liminal states</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now shifting focus to include community building and information dissemination.  Diversity issues came up again in Jen Nedeau&#8217;s session on old media paradigms shifting to a new media world.  And Twitter [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now shifting focus to include community building and information dissemination.  Diversity issues came up again in Jen Nedeau&#8217;s session on old media paradigms shifting to a new media world.  And Twitter [...]</p>
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		<title>By: digitalsista (shireen)</title>
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		<dc:creator>digitalsista (shireen)</dc:creator>
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		<description>My challenge with this session was as Jon said the questions that were about gender and race was avoided the entire session until I said the answer must be &quot;yes&quot; based on the responses.

To hear that new media is more diverse than the old media due to lower barriers to entry doesn&#039;t answer the question.

Micah did say that there is a wealth shift of old - media that allows those to have a dominant presence. Which means it isn&#039;t just about being good but that if you can spend full time hours getting paid to blog, good is inevitable. As they say practice makes perfect. That is a barrier to being recognized although entry has been lowered with the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My challenge with this session was as Jon said the questions that were about gender and race was avoided the entire session until I said the answer must be &#8220;yes&#8221; based on the responses.</p>
<p>To hear that new media is more diverse than the old media due to lower barriers to entry doesn&#8217;t answer the question.</p>
<p>Micah did say that there is a wealth shift of old &#8211; media that allows those to have a dominant presence. Which means it isn&#8217;t just about being good but that if you can spend full time hours getting paid to blog, good is inevitable. As they say practice makes perfect. That is a barrier to being recognized although entry has been lowered with the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the liveblogging, Jill.  Very useful!

One of the things that really leapt out at me in this session is how every time somebody put issues of gender or race on the table, guys would change the subject.  Business models, the future of investigative journalism, and old-new media squabbling are great topics and we can talk all day about them ... however the agenda also included

&lt;i&gt;Specifically talk about constructs of gender equality &amp; how the &quot;old boys club&quot; may have found a new home within the political blogosphere&lt;/i&gt;

and it certainly seemed to me that the guys just didn&#039;t want to go there.

Jen and Amanda both presented statistics highlighting inequities, and the closest anybody came to acknowledging them was when Micah incorrectly stated that new media was more diverse than old media.  He then dismissed the idea of equality as &quot;utopia&quot; and &quot;probably not what you want anyway&quot; (or something like that).  And then went back to talking about business models.

The session closed with people quoting Steven Johnson, Jeff Jarvis, and Michael Kinsley* and lauding the white male elitist dominated tech blogosphere as if it were a great example of where we should be going.  

Grr.  I hate that.

jon

* all guys, in case it&#039;s not obvious, and none as far as i know with particular expertise in gender equity or diversity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the liveblogging, Jill.  Very useful!</p>
<p>One of the things that really leapt out at me in this session is how every time somebody put issues of gender or race on the table, guys would change the subject.  Business models, the future of investigative journalism, and old-new media squabbling are great topics and we can talk all day about them &#8230; however the agenda also included</p>
<p><i>Specifically talk about constructs of gender equality &amp; how the &#8220;old boys club&#8221; may have found a new home within the political blogosphere</i></p>
<p>and it certainly seemed to me that the guys just didn&#8217;t want to go there.</p>
<p>Jen and Amanda both presented statistics highlighting inequities, and the closest anybody came to acknowledging them was when Micah incorrectly stated that new media was more diverse than old media.  He then dismissed the idea of equality as &#8220;utopia&#8221; and &#8220;probably not what you want anyway&#8221; (or something like that).  And then went back to talking about business models.</p>
<p>The session closed with people quoting Steven Johnson, Jeff Jarvis, and Michael Kinsley* and lauding the white male elitist dominated tech blogosphere as if it were a great example of where we should be going.  </p>
<p>Grr.  I hate that.</p>
<p>jon</p>
<p>* all guys, in case it&#8217;s not obvious, and none as far as i know with particular expertise in gender equity or diversity.</p>
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